This is one of the oldest, most well known GPT (Get-Paid-To) sites. They have plenty to offer, so you shouldn't get too bored. You can earn bonus points for meeting your daily goals, and you can earn up to 300 points ($3) for meeting your goal each day. They have one of the largest selections of rewards available, so you should easily find something you like. — Payment Proof. / Is it available in my country? *The site is International, but most earning opportunities are for US, UK, CA and AU.
↪ Get a 300SB ($3) bonus if you sign up through the link above and earn 300SB in your first 30 days. Points are awarded the next day after reaching 300SB. ↪ Use signup code REDDIT for a free 70SB bonus for new users. Click “I have a sign up code (optional)” which is underneath the “Confirm Password” Box. ↪ AFTERsigning up you can also earn an extra 50SB by installing the Swagbutton on your laptop or desktop through this link. It notifies you when there are new codes for free SB, automatically gives you cashback on sites like Amazon etc.. ↪ Age minimum: 13 ↪ Offers: Mobile and Desktop Videos, Surveys, Polls, Offer Walls, Tasks, Special offers, Coupons, Games, Search bar, Limited Time Codes, Download offers, Cash Back from Shopping, Swago (like Bingo) and more. ↪ Payout: [Minimum: $3] Amazon, PayPal, Prepaid VISA, Wal-Mart, PSN, Xbox, Sweepstakes, Charity and many more. TIPS: • Earn up to 300 SB ($3) for meeting your goals for 7, 14, 21 and 30 days in a row. • Once a month you can redeem a $25 gift card for 12% off. • Make up to 10 Swagbucks easily each day by playing games in the Play category. • Check out /swagbucks and the discord after signing up for up to date info about the best paying offers.
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Gain is a high paying GPT site that allows you to complete offers, watch videos, complete surveys and more to earn coins. Gain operates in many countries. New users can start out with 100 coins by using this link. — Payment Proof.
↪ Withdrawal options include BTC, ETH, LTC, BCH, CSGOSHOP, Coinbase. Gift cards (through Tango/Rewardlink) also available in certain countries only. ↪ Free daily bonus coins from 10-100 depending on your user level, claim them every 24h on the Gain offerwall ↪ Age minimum: 13+ ↪ No screwy point to dollar conversion ratios. 1,000 coins = $1. ↪ Active, friendly and easily accessible support ↪ Earn extra coins for being one of the top 3 earners each day and each month. TIPS: • Referral Incentive: New users get 100 coins ($0.10). Referring users get 5% of the referred users earnings. • Click on the PayPal Guide link after signing up to learn how to easily convert your earnings from Crypto>PayPal with CoinBase. • 5% Earning Bonus: Sign up to the site with your Steam account and add gain.gg to the end of your steam username to earn a 5% bonus on your earnings. • Offers over 4000 coins are automatically held, message Support Chat (click Support on the top right of the chat box) to have the coins released for you.
GG2U is a GPT (Get-Paid-To) site. The website is a bit outdated looking, and it can feel clunky at times, but don't let that fool you. It has some of the highest paying rates, and has a few unique offer walls and plenty of survey routers that you rarely see on other sites. The customer support is great as well. The owner responds pretty quickly and is always willing to help out. This site is focused on gamers and has some gaming tasks, but there are plenty of things to do for non-gamers as well. — Payment Proof. *The site is International, but most earning opportunities are for US, UK, CA and AU.
↪ Age minimum: 13 ↪ Offers: Surveys, Offer Walls, Tasks, Videos, Gaming Tasks, and Promotional Link Shortener. ↪ Get paid for listening to the radio (US, CA, UK) ↪ Payout: [Minimum: $7] PayPal, BTC to Coinbase, Amazon, Best Buy, GameStop, Google Play, iTunes, Nintendo eShop, Playstation GC, Steam, Target, Walmart, Xbox GC ↪ Referral Incentive: The referring user earns 5% for life. TIPS: • For every 5 cash out requests, you get a Golden Token which will give you $1-7. This results in an average 7.8% higher payments if cashing out at the minimum each time. • If you contact support, you can request to have your payouts issued at the minimum cashout amount rather than for your full balance. This will let you make the most out of the Golden Tickets.
PrizeRebel is a GPT (Get-Paid-To) site. They have many offer walls and survey providers available. You can earn bonus points for meeting your daily goals, and they have bi-monthly contests that reward the top earners. They also have a Level program that allows you to earn a bigger percentage from your referrals, prize discounts, special bonuses, and automatic prize processing. Level up by earning more points. — Payment Proof. *The site is International, but most earning opportunities are for US, UK, CA and AU.
↪ Age minimum: 16 ↪ Offers: Surveys, Offer Walls, Tasks, Videos, Coupons, and Earning Contests. ↪ Payout: [Minimum: $2] Amazon, PayPal, VISA, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Raffles and many more. ↪ Referral Incentive: 15-30% of what your referrals earn for life. TIPS: • Meet your daily goal each day to earn bonus points.
Fetch is an app available for both Android and iOS where users earn money for scanning receipts and for purchasing specific products or brands. You get points for every receipt from a grocery retailer, supermarket, club wholesaler, home improvement/hardware store, pet store or convenience stores, regardless of what you buy. You can get additional points for purchasing specific products or specific brands. Receipts cannot be more than 2 weeks old. It can also be set it up to passively collect e-receipts. — Payment Proof.
↪ Age minimum: Age of majority in your jurisdiction (Usually this is 18). ↪ Offers: Cash back for scanning receipts and buying specific products or brands. ↪ Payout: [Minimum $3] Amazon, Target, Best Buy, Xbox, Applebee's and many more. ↪ Referral Incentive: Both the referrer and the referred user get $2-5 when they scan their first receipt. The exact amount varies depending on the current promotion. This is close to or above the minimum cash out amount. TIPS: • Make sure to check for rebates on any items you regularly stock up on. • You don’t need to add rebates before purchasing items.
Ibotta is an app available for both Android and iOS that gives cash back for shopping at Ibotta's retail and then scanning your receipts to prove what purchases were made. They currently support around 160 stores. Most offers are for newer brands, but they often have well-known names such as Glade or Kraft. They also regularly have cash back deals for "any item" or "any brand". You can also get cash back for shopping on sites such as Amazon and various services such as meal delivery. — Payment Proof.
↪ Age minimum: 18 ↪ Offers: Cash back. ↪ Payout: [Minimum $20] Paypal, Venmo, Amazon, BestBuy, Starbucks and many more. ↪ Referral: Referred users get a $20 Welcome Bonus after redeeming their first brand name receipt. Referring users get $5 for each referred user who receives their welcome bonus. They also often run bonuses for referring a certain number of users during the month. TIPS:: • Always check for the "Any Item" rebate before scanning a receipt. • Check your account for bonuses. They often have bonuses for redeeming certain groups of rebates or for redeeming a certain number of rebates within a time limit. • You can link your Facebook account in order to participate in teamwork bonuses with friends.
Earn for watching videos with advertisements. All you have to do is create an account, log in, visit the Rewards page, choose a loyalty rewards partner, and then start watching. You can then transfer and redeem your credits via the partner's platform. *The site is International but currently limited to United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden,Romania, Portugal, Poland, Malta, Latvia, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Italy, Hungary, Croatia, Greece, France, Finland, Spain, Estonia, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Belgium, Austria, India. Ukraine, Uruguay, Brazil, Mexico, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Colombia, Malaysia, Thailand, Ecuador, Peru, United Arab Emirates, Phillipines.
↪ At the Promo Center, you can also earn points by taking surveys, downloading apps, trying products, and more! ↪ Hideout is currently limited to only one account/device per household. ↪ Hideout credits are worth different amounts depending on which site you transfer them to. Shop around to see which site/loyalty partner offers the best all around value for you. ↪ Age minimum: 13 ↪ Payout: You need to have earned at least 9 points to redeem/transfer and can only do 3 transfers per day. TIPS: • Earn daily free rewards points by watching at least one video and then going to any video on Hideout.tv, and clicking on the "Rewards" button. You'll then see a filled-in, one-use promo code. • Hideout frequently posts promo codes on their Facebook so check often because they have limited uses.
Mturk is a platform that allows clients to post a large number of jobs. It is a bit more professional than the typical /beermoney site. You work for "requesters" and they can approve or reject your submitted tasks, also known as HITs. You can earn a lot more money on this site than other typical /beermoney sites, but you need to pay attention to which jobs you accept. Not all HITs pay well. They do require some sensitive information from you for tax purposes. Not everyone gets approved to work here, and some people will be approved months or years after being rejected. — Payment Proof. *This site is international, but most of the tasks are only available for the USA. International users can only redeem Amazon.com balance.
↪ Age minimum: 18 ↪ Offers: A large number of tasks including Surveys, Transcription, Translation, Website Testing, Data Entry and much more. ↪ Payout: [Minimum $0.01] Amazon.com Balance and Amazon Payments Balance. Amazon Payments Balance can be transferred to a bank account. Note: All Amazon Balance is for the USA Amazon.com website regardless of your country. ↪ Referral Incentive: None TIPS: • Only do HITs that pay at least 10¢/minute. This gives you a rate of $6/hour. Mturk crowd forum and /hitsworthturkingfor are good places to check for higher paying HITs. • It is better to return a HIT than to submit to if you are unsure whether the requester will approve it. Returning a HIT will not negatively affect you, but a rejection will. • Scripts are allowed and encouraged. Checked /mturk for more tips and suggestions.
UserTesting is a usability testing site. You get paid to record your screen and speak aloud while performing a number of specified tasks. These tasks are generally related to testing a website or an app, but some tests may have you complete a survey, play a game, test new software, etc. At the start you may receive $3 sample tests, but after a while you will see $10 unmoderated tests. Moderated tests start at $30 per test, and usually require you to have a webcam. Payment arrives via PayPal exactly 7 days after your test is completed. — Payment Proof. *The site is International, but most earning opportunities are for US, UK, CA and AU.
↪ Age minimum: 18 ↪ Offers: Usability testing ↪ Payout: [Minimum: None] PayPal ↪ Referral Incentive: None. TIPS: • Completing the unpaid surveys at the top may qualify you for additional tests. • Make sure to follow instructions carefully, keep talking, and be professional. Keeping a high quality rating is essential if you want to receive plenty of tests.
GetUpside is an app available on both Android and iOS that gives you cash back on gas, groceries and restaurants. You can get up to $0.25 per gallon of gas (or up to $0.50 per gallon twice per day), 15% on groceries, and 35% at restaurants. Some gas stations offer cash back on convenience store purchases, car washes, inspections, oil changes, etc. GetUpside also gives you a map of all the participating gas stations in your area, and you can get additional points for confirming or fixing the prices.
↪ Age Minimum: 13 ↪ Offers: Cashback on gas, groceries and restaurants. ↪ Payout: PayPal ($1 fee if under $15), Check ($1 fee if under $50), Amazon, Home Depot, Target, and many more. [GC Minimum: $10] ↪ Referral Incentive: The referred user gets $0.15-$0.20 off per gallon of gas on their first purchase. The referring user gets $0.01-$0.02 per gallon from direct referrals, and $0.005-$0.01 per gallon for indirect referrals for life. Amount varies per person. As of 05/18/20 (not sure how long it will last) new users who sign up with the link above get a $7-$14(varies per person) bonus if they buy at least $10 worth of gas. TIPS: • You must make your purchase with a debit or credit card. Cash, prepaid cards, gift cards, and EBT are not eligible forms of payment. • You only have 4 hours to make your gas or restaurant purchase after claiming the offer. Grocery offers have 24 hours. All receipts must be scanned within 24 hours from when you claim the offer.
Cash Back From Shopping Online
These sites give cash back on your online purchases. Online purchases require you to click their affiliate link prior to shopping. Ebates US has in-store offers as well. In-store purchases require you to link a debit/credit card and to active the offer prior to shopping. Most of these sites are International, but your shopping opportunities may be limited, and you will only get paid in the associated currency. — Ebates Payment Proof.
TIPS: • Make sure to click on the "Shop Now" or “Get Cashback” button before adding items to your cart. Otherwise, your shopping trip may not count. • You can only use one shopping portal per shopping trip. Attempting to use more than one may cause problems crediting your account. • Disable any ad blockers while shopping. • For US Users: Sometimes you can earn more cash back on Ebates or TopCashBack than the other for a particular store. Check both sites if you want to get the most cash back for each purchase. • For TopCashBack UK Users: New users are automatically enrolled into the Plus membership. Downgrade to the Classic membership to avoid being charged £5/year.
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Sites to Avoid: Definitely DO NOT post these.
✖ Earnsanity — Shady owner, sketchy site. Held giveaway and then refunded the prizes after it was over. History of scamming many others. AVOID AT ALL COSTS UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE SCAMMED. ✖ Paidverts — Shady owner, sketchy site. Keeps doing debt swaps (cash to BAP). Do not post. ✖ Neobux — It isn’t really a scam, but they operate as a pyramid scheme. There’s money to be made online, but it’s definitely not there. ✖ MarketGlory — It does pay out, but the pay is absolutely ridiculous. The only way to make a decent amount of money is to have a lot of referrals, and referral whoring on this subreddit WILL result in a permanent ban. ✖ MindSumo — Not actually a /beermoney site. It’s only spam in this sub. ✖ G2A — Scam/sells stolen keys. ✖ Robinhood — This is spammed on our sub constantly. ✖ Quickthoughts — Many reports of people being banned when trying to withdraw as of 10/2018. Do your due diligence before possibly wasting your time on this app. ✖ Sites with $100+ minimum — These sites usually offer higher than normal payments for simple tasks, with a high minimum to cash out. They are always scams. ✖ Generic news sites that pay you ridiculous amounts to read an article (two euros??) — Common sense should take care of this, but in case it doesn’t, it’s always a scam. The site is usually hosted somewhere in Eastern Europe, and you will never get paid. ✖ Free bitcoin sites/"faucets" (THIS INCLUDES QOINPRO) — This is not referring to those video-viewing/task sites (although they’re still paying fragments of a penny). I’m talking about sites that give you 0.000001BTC to fill a captcha (freebitco.in, dailybitcoins). Admittedly many beermoney sites pay low, but don’t even bother with these. Also: Bitcoin mining is NO LONGER PROFITABLE. If you're really so keen on getting bitcoins, doing so through an exchange is your best option. Here are a few more scam sites and sketchy sites.
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Community Request: Help Venezuela & Network Stress Test together
Hi, I wanted to ask, what are people's ideas and opinions on the following and should we go ahead with this? TL;DR We raise $12,500 as a community, request if Devs can match it. With $25,000, we open the original Raiblocks faucet for 24 hours paying out 0.01, aimed at Venezuela. That will lead to 2,500,000 transactions. All the techies/node holders etc on the same day, run scripts and do further stress testing on live network. Why and When: Current situation in Venezuela, how Crypto can help them and prompt adoption, $2-4 is thier MONTHLY wage. They can earn $1.8 per HOUR. Lead to boost in marketing. Bitcoin Cash is doing thier stress testing on 1st September, we can use thier marketing and awareness they've built and show how Nano did more than BCH, is faster, had zero fees cost and helped real life people and the real life Venezuela situation Summary and background Given the current Venezuelan crisis, and how crypto can have a positive impact on people living there, with some peoples monthly wages are around $2-$4. As a community and for crypto adoption, how do we move forward in order to make a real difference and generate awareness? While, there were previous talks about a community stress tests for our network, this did not happen due to other events. However Bitcoin Cash, are planning to do a community stress test on the 1st September, and when they do this, there will be big news on their achievement. My idea/proposal As we have a fantastic opportunity and a chance to gain significant marketing and awareness, if we can do a community stress test on the same day and help people in Venezuela. This will be a massive boost in marketing and awareness of NANO, and when we beat BitcoinCash at the same day, and can help real life people and promote adoption. We can effectively, use all their marketing and build up and on the same day, when the news and stories come out, we would be on top. In effect the old saying of "kill two birds with 1 stone". Steps required 1) We as a community and u/TheNanoCenter create a request to raise $12,500. Given the success of the previously fund raising of $5,000 in less than a week. It does seem possible, to raise this in a 2-3 weeks time. 2) We ask useTroy, to request if the Devs could match this amount and support the idea, If yes, we move on 3) We will then have a total of $25,000 or a total of 2,500,000 cents. 4) We then ask Colin, if he could Resurrect the orignal Raiblocks faucet and relaunch this with Nano. If we take $25,000 and pay out 0.01 cent for the faucet. The person in Venezuela can earn around $1.8 per HOUR (in comparison their monthly wages are around 2-4$). We can assume or cap the faucet, so it pays out every 20 seconds. I have contacted a few people from Venezuela and they said earning 10$ would be great and significant for them. This faucet would be online and live only for 24 hours on 1st September and paying out, every 20 seconds per user.l, we can educate people on crypto and what NANO is and other general things, our goals and missions. It will give a chance to a wide range of people to equally obtain funds and learn more about Nano and crypto. Currently - User ChocolateFudCake, can confirm the amount of people from Venezuela, If people are happy, we can create a discord and start to promote this and we can teach people how to set up their wallets in advance. Based on my maths, if a person can do 3 faucets per minute, that means 180 per hour, on average lets say they do this for 15 hours, they can do 2,700 faucets, which is around $27 in total. With the $25,000 we can effectlty help and equally share this out to a total of 925 to 1,000 people. 5) This should give us a total of 2,500,000 transactions on out network and based on my calculations put the Tx per second to around 29 on average. 2,500,000 / total 86,400 seconds per day (Wrong calculation?) 6) While this is happening, user jaydubs, Kritainji, all node holders, techies and everyone else (too many people to name, who always help out) who can help, and can use their scripts/skills to send more transactions in the background and stress test the network. Final outcome This will really help a range of people more directly and equally and give them a chance to potentially earning around 4-5 months of wages in a day. As well as give us a massive boost in marketing and have the chance to tag this story on how cryoto is helping real life people and how we managed to beat BCH, and how the fact the news stories will highlight how there was zero transaction costs and highlight everything Nano and the Nano community can do over BCH and our vision. I have wrote UseXYZ as I wanted ideas and opinions first and if people would want this, then I will tag the users. Will update formats and tidy up later tomorrow, just want some initial ideas and thoughts, is it possible or any risks? Ill share the posts abot the wages information too
[Transcript] Crypto Zombie Interview With Anonymous Komodo Founder JL777
Crypto Zombie talks about the interview at 13:30 of his video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTOdWcuuSFA Link to full text at pages 10 to 15: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/b1c805c050ef6fca080b9d888/files/cf42e52f-5978-4f4e-b45a-241b94af4638/12_BlockchainBrief_November.pdf ------- CRYPTO ZOMBIE: It is difficult to describe the Komodo Platform in just a few words. Often confused as simply a privacy coin, KMD, is actually an incredibly robust and intricate ecosystem. With Komodo’s unique spin on smart contracts, referred to as “crypto-conditions,” and the fact that KMD has already achieved 45,000 TPS (1,000,000 possible in the near future), this platform may actually be the first crypto to solve all four of blockchain’s major pain-points: privacy, scalability, interoperability, and security. In this much anticipated AMA, I got to chat with the anonymous founder of Komodo, JL777, via the Komodo Discord. Here is what JL777 had to say... CZ: So let’s jump into this directly with the MOST requested community question: Are you Satoshi Nakamoto? JL777: Happy to answer questions of a non-personal nature. That seems pretty personal. But I didn’t arrive in crypto until late 2013, so clearly I can’t be Satoshi. Maybe there are a lot of similarities in our beliefs, but he was gone before I arrived. CZ: Just starting off with some fun! Alright, so all jokes asides let’s dive in. What exactly is Komodo (KMD)? JL777: It has many different aspects, hard to make a single statement about it. I know this drives the marketing side nuts as they need these elevator pitch things. However, I can explain how it is evolving. It starts with the desired end solution: a crypto that can handle mass market scale, has privacy, is secure, and fast. Given that just getting two of those four usually requires making significant trade-offs to decentralization. You can imagine that it is not an easy problem to solve! So, KMD starts with Zcash privacy: the best available privacy tech. So, we can check that off the list. But, it needs to be secure. So I had to invent the dPoW [consensus] to leverage BTC’s massive hashrate. That allowed us to have a lot of independent chains, all secured by dPoW, which led to the runtime forking ability that lets you launch a chain from the command line without any source code changes. PoW, PoS, some hybrid, all types of premine and emission schedules. CZ: Could you briefly explain dPoW and why it’s so secure, for those who don’t understand? JL777: dPoW is dynamically creating decentralized checkpoints to the BTC blockchain. That means that once a block is notarized, it is like having it “write protected.” No need to worry about it being rewritten. Being rewritten is a very real danger! CZ: So in other words as long as BTC is not under 51% attack it would be impossible for Komodo or any of it’s chains to be affected? JL777: I wouldn’t say impossible, but it becomes order of magnitude (or more) difficult. I wrote a description of the reorg process and can post it here if you’d like. CZ: Sure we can link to it for further research. That would be great! JL777: https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/Mastering_CryptoConditions It directly applies to explaining dPoW. It is from the documentation on the channels CC (Crypto-Conditions), which implements an improved form of Lightning Networks and addresses the latency issue, as it provides dPoW protection to mempool transactions. With the privacy and security items addressed, the next thing to do was scaling. Along the way people kept asking for smart contracts. With the notarization process in place, it enabled us to create a solution that non-notarized chains are unable to do. That is creating a reference set of hashes that allow you to verify that a transaction on any chain has been confirmed, on any other chain. It uses a method that is very similar to SPV validation. It’s all about merkleroots and merkleroots of merkleroots from many different chains all being combined. This is sent back to the notarizer and ends up in the notarization data. Once it’s there, then any notarized chain is able to validate the raw data from a transaction that actually happened on a different chain. What that allows is a burn protocol to burn coins on one chain and recreate them on another. So, the total coins across all of the fungible chains are constant. That means you can have however many chains you need for the transactions per second (TPS) needed. Anytime you need to transfer coins from one chain to the next, you use the burn protocol. Reading it, it does seem pretty deep technical... sorry... I guess it can be summarized as using notarization to create a cluster of chains whose total coin supply is held constant. This forms our scaling solution. Instead of having to create some cutting edge networking protocol that can handle some crazy TPS, with our solution you just spawn a new chain. It is similar to building more roads if your existing roads are congested. No need for any magical maglev vacuum tube high throughput high ways. Just a bunch of normal roads, if you have a bunch of cars... Just a bunch of normal blockchains if you need a bunch of TPS. I much prefer the simple solutions, as I can fully understand those. CZ: Exactly! Such a simple solution, but yet you still see so many people going crazy over TPS! On the topic of tech, I’m curious what your thoughts are on some of these newer solutions, such as the rise of DAG protocols? JL777: When it gets so complex and you need some math jargon to prove that it works... well, how can I know that it does? Code isn’t exactly a math proof. I think there are many very interesting experiments. However, I prefer to stick with the tried and true Bitcoin protocol and extend it. Why reinvent the wheel? Especially when so much work has been done already to make Bitcoin work as well as it does. It only breaks down at high load and isn’t very easy to program. Though I did make an atomic swap system called BarterDEX, which does utilize the Bitcoin script. CZ: Yes! Let’s expand on that! What is the difference between atomic swaps and etomic swaps? JL777: Etomic swap was just my way of quickly getting ETH into the BarterDEX. BarterDEX uses the Bitcoin protocol to do swaps. ETH doesn’t do Bitcoin protocol so I made an ETOMIC coin and you swap that using the protocol. We implemented a 1:1 lock/unlock of ETH/ERC20 for the ETOMIC. It does add a new layer and with mm2, we will directly implement atomic swaps between ETH and Bitcoin protocol. CZ: With so many blockchains now switching from ERC-20s to their own mainnets (native blockchains), does this mean that some blockchains will never be interoperable through the BarterDEX? Or do you think it’s a possibility in the future? JL777: With there being so many totally incompatible new protocols, it seems unlikely that they will interoperate very well and will go off and create their own island. Isolated from the rest of crypto. Maybe some will be very big islands though. Unless they have enough usage on their “island” it would seem it will eventually become a problem... CZ: This does make you wonder if TRUE interoperability between all blockchains will ever be possible... JL777: I think if these islands wanted to be interoperable, they can add this, but I suspect some don’t want to be. They maybe have dreams of becoming the only crypto. Which, of course, is an unrealistic expectation when the barrier to create a new crypto is so low. You don’t need a nation state to create a crypto! Even with such a big barrier, we end up with hundreds of fiat currencies. There is no single global currency, so how on earth can anybody truly believe there will be some single crypto? I try to base my decisions on common sense and simplicity. It ends up being quite complex as it is, even if it is created out of simple components. Now that KMD is getting the CC extensions, it completes all the technical requirements. The Crypto Conditions is mainly for the scaling solution, but I started experimenting with it a couple months ago and it started surprising me with its power! CZ: This is true! I know you have a unique way of handling smart contracts. What are Crypto-Conditions and what makes UTXO-based smart contracts such a breakthrough for the future of blockchain? JL777: To call it smart contracts is really understating what it is. Consider that it is possible to have a single CC (Crypto-Condition) transaction type mean “run the associated smart contract using the interpreted language.” What the CC does is create a new vout type, like p2pk, p2pkh, p2sh, there is a new CC vout type. This is an output that needs to satisfy the specified CC script, which can handle the industry standard Crypto-Conditions specification. But I had it extended a bit so we can have custom functions that also need to be satisfied. By making it a custom function, it allows essentially anything to be implemented. And by anything, I mean ANYTHING. At first I wasn’t 100% sure of this, but my first four CC extensions I made were: faucet, rewards, dice, and assets. The faucet is a blockchain enforced faucet. Rewards is a blockchain enforced rewards plan. Basically what most people want masternodes for. Lock funds... get some extra percentage. Dice is a blockchain enforced real-time dice game, just to show that such things can be done. Assets is a token creation system that allows a user to create new tokens with a single transaction. I also implemented functions needed for a DEX. So, basically counter-party functionality. These were the first four and I did it in several weeks as I was learning about how to do it and doing them for the first time. My thinking is that after we get a critical mass of CC extensions, the vast majority of dApps can be created just via RPC calls. No need to code a new CC extension, no need to code a smart contract, just issue RPC calls (or just click buttons and forms in a GUI). The next iteration of CC, I came up with oracles, gateways, prices and channels. Oracles creates a market driven data market for “oracle-izing” data on-chain. Gateways uses the oracles and assets to automatically tokenize BTC to an on-chain asset and also allows for automatically process withdraws. Basically the proxy DEX model of trading BTC equivalents, but it will be protected with a multisig custodians and all the tokens are locked in a contract until released with a valid deposit. The prices CC will use the oracles and gateway CC to implement a cash settled BitMEX type of leveraged betting on the BTC price. The channels CC is being debugged by one of the new devs who just started last week and it will be a better form of Lightning Network, as it uses a backward compatible transaction format, doesn’t require nodes to be online, and is secured by dPoW. CZ: Thats crazy! Most people really have no idea the Komodo platform is this robust. Komodo seems like it has already achieved so many things: scalability, privacy, interoperability, and security. So why do you feel it often gets overshadowed by newer, more “flashy” tech, that may in fact be inferior? JL777: I think the problem is that it has too much for any “elevator pitch,” so nobody who makes decisions in elevators decides to buy KMD! I don’t think there is any flashier tech than KMD, considering it solves all the crypto issues that other projects are struggling to do just a couple aspects of, when we can implement the entire value add of some project with a single CC that takes a few weeks to do... If that isn’t flashy, not sure what is! CZ: So, I recently spoke with PTYX from Chainzilla. Will Komodo platform continue offering services to premiere partners or will you be “passing the torch” over to other Blockchain-as-a-service platforms like Chainzilla? JL777: I just write code, so no idea what will happen regarding the non-coding side of things. I also don’t do GUI, so no idea when any of that will be done. I am just a simple C programmer. So I write C code to solve the deep tech issues that are otherwise unsolved. CZ: Gotcha... But you know that’s VERY important, especially for user adoption. JL777: Ideas by Nature I am trusting will solve the GUI issues. Much, much better than I could. I have to rely on others to get such things done. CZ: Yes I’m excited to see how that turns out! Let’s discuss adoption. You always hear people speak about “mass adoption,” but what do you feel it will REALLY take in order for this technology to reach the masses? JL777: Games. Realtime crypto games. That is why I did dice CC. We also have plans for a lotto CC. But, really any sort of game can be made blockchain enforceable now by using the CC tech. And, being UTXO-based, it is much more secure and so far it is much faster to code and debug. CZ: I’m so glad you said that because I feel games will be a huge proponent as well! Are you guys looking to also be able to deal with non-fungibles? For example ERC-721s? JL777: Already done. We just need a lot more coders, domain specific CC, to take the reference CC I am making and customizing it into some specific dApp. My role is to show the type of things that can be done, but we really need a big ecosystem with projects doing the various games and specific use case dApps. CZ: Do you make any decisions outside of just the coding? How does the governance within Komodo work? JL777: People like to ask me for my opinion, even on things like colors and such things, but I try to stay out of it as much as possible. Let each person with expertise make the decisions. If there is some deadlock, then maybe I let my opinion be known. But, I don’t have any special powers, other than the common sense thing, and people when they hear a good common sense solution to a problem they are battling with, it is usually adopted. But, I stay out of the team meetings and let them do their thing. Things are centralized around me too much as it is, so I try to reduce it as much as possible CZ: That’s good to know. Seems quite fair. Everyone has a say and anyone can expand on the ecosystem how they see fit to the best of their abilities. JL777: Yes, totally open community. CZ: So, this is another community question: What is your relationship with ØCryptoUnion? JL777: There is no formal relationship. They are working on some sort of gateway project, like several other projects. But, there are dozens of projects in the ecosystem and no formal relationship. This is old style crypto, not the new style corporate. At least that is how I am “managing” the open source side of things. There is a different side, that I am not involved in, so I can’t speak to how things are done there. CZ: You bring up a good point, however, given the reality that we live in a world that is controlled by few (governments, institutions, etc), do you think a truly decentralized future is realistically possible? JL777: A much more decentralized future is possible. But, it is also possible for a global totalitarian state. We already are close to a global surveillance state... very dangerous CZ: I think the biggest problem is getting people to actually CARE. Most people just want the easiest, most convenient thing and often are willing to sacrifice privacy over convenience. JL777: Well, when it comes to MONEY, people do CARE. Especially in the parts of the world where basic survival is not easy. But yes, privacy has been sacrificed a lot, to the point where people think you must be some sort of extremist if you just want to keep some privacy. But, a lot of writers of novels used pen-names. Nobody went accusing them. When the police can’t be trusted to be fair, then everybody cares about hiding as much as possible, since anything can and will be used against you! And we know we can’t trust criminals, since they ignore the law.. So why advertise to the world who you are? CZ: I agree. People always say “well if you have nothing to hide, then who cares?” I think thats the wrong attitude. So, before we go I just wanted ask one final question. Ultimately, what is your grand vision for the Komodo Platform and what can we expect in the near future? L777: Like you said, mass market adoption will need nice GUI. The low level tech in my mind is basically done. We just need to do a bunch more CC, which can, and will be done. Then people can make dApps via RPC calls. So with the easy to use GUI that gets mass market adoption, that achieves the goal of the scalable, secure, private and fast crypto. Likely KMD will be the first to achieve all four and have an atomic DEX to interface with many other cryptos. It has been a long journey, but within a year or so, I think I will become much less important. Things shift into the “GUI-zation” side of things. Maybe I can take a vacation... CZ: I have no idea how to code but I can only imagine that vacation will be WELL deserved! JL777: Just imagine writing a novel where if you make ANY mistake it crashes! Not just spelling or grammar, but character development, plot, or any error and BOOM! It’s DEAD! CZ: Great analogy! Well, thanks so much JL777 for taking time out of your busy schedule to have this chat. You are clearly an intelligent person and I’ve really enjoyed this. There is so much more we could talk about, but unfortunately there is only so much time! JL777: It was fun to chat! Feel free to stop by the Discord anytime. There is an “Ask-JL777 channel” here. Just post there anytime and I will answer.
Finals are going to span from tomorrow afternoon until the 5th of May, so I will just use this as a vent thread and keep updating it rather than do a several-part series on finals or anything like that. I hand-write out all of my planners. I get those 100 page composition books from the dollar store. Every day gets a page with hours written down the left margin from 9 am till 12 pm. Each book has three months worth of pages. When a day ends, I alternatively fold in the top and bottom corners and it kind of acts like a book mark so I can immediately flip to the current day as time goes on... This is an obsession. I will open my planner and flip through the pages and write in my class schedule and appointments and reminders and the "expected to-do lists". I've been doing this since March of last year. I now have 4 composition books stashed away in a drawer filled with folded pages and those day-to-day notes and the list of expectations I had for myself on any given day. My steady print. My lawyer-in-training cursive. Sometimes a rare quick poem that escaped from the chemical restraints of my meds. And always at the end of every semester, in big ALL-CAPS printing, surrounded by a rectangle: TORTS FINAL 6:30-9:30 PM SALES FINAL 10:00 AM- 1:00 PM etc etc And here we are again, rectangled all-caps scribbles. Together, again. For the last time. Usually, you'll have a designated "finals week" (which tends to span 2-3 weeks). All the finals fall into that timespan and if you're a lucky duck, each exam will be at least a couple days apart. But why let a graduating third year enjoy that kind of luxury? Naww... My first final is a take-home which will be sent out Thursday and turned in Saturday night. Then an in-class final Monday night (preceded by a 10-minute topical oral presentation in another class). Then we get this nice teeny tiny little break they call "Reading week". But it's not a week. It's about 3 days. May 2: Final. May 4: Final. May 5: Final. (Mind you, the "finals week" is schedule to go until about May 17 or so. Oof.) So I'm about to jump into a sea of sharks. I go into stockholm syndrome mode. The law is my captor and I love him. I study him. I know and memorize all of his nooks and crannies. When I'm ready to tell the world, I write his life story (my outlines-- usually from memory) on whiteboard stretching across the classrooms. ...aaaaaaaand then I take the exam and forget about him forever [unless a) it ends up being a bar tested subject and I'll be learning it again this summer or b) it's a law subject I want to pursue a career in]. And tonight's the night before it all starts. It's like waiting in that three-hour line for a roller coaster and you're finally gonna go next. So I will be taking a cruise to Stockholm very soon. I'll try to write home when I can... Update 4/23 Afternoon: Got my assignment for my take-home final. I wish I can indulge some info on it, but 1) don't want to say anything that would be risk me being identified here and 2) our school does anonymous grading. So wouldn't want #1 to lead to flopping that up. But I am excited about it. I do have a class in about 30 minutes so I can't jump on the project yet, but I will have all day tomorrow and most of the day Saturday. Whee! After picking up this assignment prompt and walking outside, my Nate Reuss-lyic-singing friend was out here singing a few lines of "Carry On" by fun. I peeked over the wall to see if he was close enough so I could join him.. he was quite a ways away and just sort of stopped singing, so I just returned to my sitting spot. But it was a nice voice to hear and a nice moment of that bipolar-Nate Reuss Lyrics bonding lol. Update: 4/24 Early Evening: Woke up relatively early (9:30) and did a chunk of research to start compiling the things I need for this take-home final. Took a needed nap at around 1-3 pm. Got back to work and have spent the last three hours compiling and putting squeaky clean touches on the first half of a two-part final. Ugh, like I said I can't go into detail on this (maybe after I turn it in and get my grade back, if it's still topical, I'll post the details about it then.) But I'm happy about this because I get to squeeze a little creativity into this final.. which I've done on this first half. And I'm thinking of something cool for the second half. With over 24 hours to spare before I have to turn in both parts of this final, I'm feeling good :) But I still have to squeeze in more work for other classes this weekend. Presentation on Monday. Trial Practice Final Monday night. Doing some study prep for upcoming review sessions. I've also got to wake up early tomorrow for a three-hour semi-mandatory bar prep thing. And I also want-need to go to the gym, tonight.. probably in about an hour. So I'm going to set myself up to start on part 2 of this take-home, hit the gym, and curl up with the Bruce Jenner 20/20 interview when I get home (while doing little bits of work on this final during the commercial break). Update: 4/25 just after midnight: So I would say I'm 85% done with this take-home final. I'm at the point where everything is on the page that I think should be on the page, but I need to spend time going over things and checking to see if I have any loose ends. Getting ready to pass out now so that I can wake up "early" tomorrow for the thing that I gotta do for the...zzzzzzzz..... Update: 4/25: late afternoon: Take home final is DONE and turned in!!! Now I have to do: Presentation for Monday (only needs to be 10 minutes long so shouldn't be awful), Prepare for in-class final Monday night, get things together for review sessions on Tuesday/Wednesday. OH and I also have to do the darn school newspaper before the month ends. -_- Even though I was able to push through with this first final, I feel like I haven't kicked into "marathon mode" yet..... Update: 4/25 evening: Working on my presentation. It's supposed to be about investing in gold. The class is corporate finance so I've been learning all semester about stocks and bonds and balance sheets and present and future values and all kinds of stuff-- it's the first time I've purchased a special calculator for a class since 2007. I picked the topic of gold thinking there was something super complex and amazing to it. In the context of a class like this, it really isn't that complex. There's this price for gold that's set by the people who want to trade gold. And you buy a 1 oz coin of gold for that price. So in the context of a class where market value of stocks is based on intrinsic values of companies which is estimated by experts reviewing pages-long balance sheets and financial statements...... Eh nope. Not this. We, as humans, just feel like gold is special, and we pay $X for it. And we've got gold. And if we want, we can sell it for $Y. Oh, and Warren Buffet thinks investing in gold is stupid because gold can't actively turn a profit like a business can. I'll probably get brownie points for menitoning Warren Buffet. ...The presentation has to be 10 minutes long.. I can't end there, right? So now I'm on the verge of an existential crisis trying to pinpoint the moment in time in our human history where we decided to place a value on gold (or any currency) for any sort of concrete reason. And then I have to switch from history and philosophy to science to see that one supporting reason-- although not THE reason-- why gold is valued is because it's an inert, relatively rare metal. Doesn't rust, easy to smelt, heavy, and out of all the elements of the periodic table, Au is, chemically, the most ideal element to create a valuable currency from, with silver and copper coming in 2nd and 3rd, respectively. But now we have our fiat currencies and the gold standard has been eliminated in almost every country... so why do people want to buy a 1 oz gold bullion coin for $1,200? The only financially sound reason leads me to come up with ideas worthy of conspiracy.. and yet, as the kind of person who is always expecting worst-case scenarios, it makes total and complete sense to me so I don't knock anybody for thinking this way... in the history of fiat currency, fiat currencies will go up and down in value and sometimes, eventually become worthless. But through it all, gold retains value internationally-- the value fluctuates, but it never falls anywhere near into oblivion.. the price remains relatively high. So one day, when the US dollar crumbles and the economies of the world are running around like chickens with their heads cut off, the people with gold bullion will still have something that's worth something because.. well.. refer to the above paragraphs. lol ...typing all this out has really just been a practice in whatever it is I'm gonna say on Monday. I don't know how much farther I can take this topic... Update 4/26 early afternoon: So I was stupid last night and the rabbit hole I went down with my gold research lead to me taking a fresh look at bitcoin. Wow. So.. a while back, when Bitcoin was trading above $600 or so, I had used faucets and got 0.015 bitcoin saved up. At one point, that much was worth $15 USD or so. It was basically beer money. I mostly used faucets. And it's funny because when bitcoin used to only be about $5 USD, this random Bitcoin twitter account paid me 1 BTC to write a poem about bitcoin. WOW. and I ended up just giving that away as donations to friends. So I looked back into bitcoin and the faucets I used to use and realized that these days, the faucet payout is higher. So I spent quite a bit of time in the wee hours last night fauceting bitcoin. I didn't fall asleep until 4 am (d'oh!). So I woke up today around 1 pm. I'm trying not to feel bad about it. After all I woke up early yesterday and didn't take a nap to even things out. On the days I don't have to wake up early, I'll sleep in until 11 or 12.. so this isn't that bad. And I did get my final done yesterday. So that's behind me. Maybe I can start fauceting again when I'm done with finals. But okay. We're done with that now. Back to focusing... ...this final I have Monday night is a team project. I woke up to texts from a teammate asking me for comments and suggestions on his part. So I went into his google doc and made my comments. Now I have to do my part which is to write a script, basically.. I've only written an outline.. I've written a script like this before and I know, once I start and it flows, it keeps flowing... Ugh.. can't quite get to the flow, yet.......... ..Maybe I just need more coffee? :-/ Update 4/26 early evening: Took a coffee break and sat to talk to my mom for a while about my school work. She started talking about a party she went to last night with dad. I asked her how they got invited to the party (what the connection was) and she went on a long tangent about the party without directly answering the question. See, my Monday night final, I have to do a direct examination. Essentially, you ask a fairly open-ended question but you prep your client ahead of time to give a pretty precise answer and prep them so that they DON'T go on a tangent. That's the script I've been working on... ...so I tell my mom she would make a horrible direct examination witness because I asked her one simple question and she went on a tangent that had nothing to do with my question. She was like, this is what your dad and I have always fought over for the last 30+ years. You think just like him. lol. And it's true. I was raised in a direct examination/cross examination environment. My dad never pushed my to be a lawyer, I decided to be that on my own, but he inadvertently trained me for two decades to think like a trial lawyer questioning a witness. Although my training was in the form of me being that witness.. the witness who got a bad grade or didn't do her chores or the witness who needed help with homework or wanted to talk about education plans. If you don't answer a question a certain way with my dad, a conversation that a normal person would think should only last 5-10 minutes could turn into a 3-hour ordeal. I'm not exaggerating. And my dad didn't raise us that way by design, it's just the way he handled things with us. ...funny when I decided to use this reddit post as my little finals period venting post, I didn't think I'd start unpacking my childhood or my bitcoin fetish or an existential journey though the history of monetary exchange... Update 4/26 nighttime: I'm trying to give myself a break by watching my regular Sunday Night shows.. Once Upon a Time and Secrets and Lies. My phone is blowing up with texts from a teammate asking me to help him with his part of Monday night's final. OH NO OH NO RIGHT AS I'M WATCHING TV I SEE BEN CRAWFORD IS GOOGLING BIPOLAR DISORDER. DAMNIT, ABC, AND RISPERDONE... OHHH NOOO. NO NO NO NO NO F** YOU ABC DO NOT PIN TOM'S MURDER ON BIPOLAR DISORDER. Anyway, after three years of law school, it's been a struggle, but I've more or less mastered the art of thinking twice-- or three times-- before I send off a text or email. This is especially helpful if somebody starts getting annoying or gets me upset. It's an exercise in "professionalism" and if you don't learn it by the time you're sworn in with the bar, it can cause you some problems in the teamwork arena. Text communication is a damn art. NO F** YOU ABC DON'T MAKE THIS ABOUT JESS HAVING BIPOLAR AND NOT TAKING HER PILLS. GOD DAMNIT. ...Sorry, that was totally topical. I'm literally watching Secrets and Lies while I type this. If you watch the show, it'll make sense to you lol. So I'm getting a flood of texts from these teammates asking me for their help. I'm the type of person who usually only communicates with a team to make sure logistics are worked out. I'm usually not asking the team for help on things that are minute details that I should be working out myself. And now one of my teammates is hitting me up asking me to do just that. Option 1: DUDE I CANNOT HELP YOU RIGHT NOW I HAVE MY OWN PART OF THE PROJECT TO WORK ON PLUS ANOTHER PRESENTATION TO WORK ON. (And I say Option 1 because this is usually the visceral immediate reaction) Option 2: Read his texts with my full attention (when there's a commercial break) and respond with my advice to help him. I've been doing Option 2 all day.. all weekend, really. I even just made him a video to give him a comprehensive critique of his part of the presentation which he's written out and shared on google docs. I'm SO SO close to switching to Option 1. Sigh.. Update 4/27 Afternoon: Finished my presentation. On to the next... Update 4/28 After midnight: Two finals down. Flugh. I got to a point tonight where I just wanted to get my part of the team-assigned final done and teleport home. At one point during a direct exam on the other side, the guy next to me who was about to do cross-- the same guy who was constantly texting me for help all weekend-- whispered in my ear and was like "so how do you think I should address what he just said in my cross?" Like, okay, maybe I should be flattered, right? This guy is asking me for advice on this stuff which probably means he values my opinion. But at this point, I was just DONE. I can't THINK for you right now, bro. I just kind of waved my hands and told him "I don't even know, man." Then I do my part which was a direct examination. I wrote a script for it and sent it to my "witness" ahead of time so he could get a good read through of it and it could go smoothly. I guess you can put some blame on me here for not trying a little more to practice with this guy, but he is a mutual friend of a lot of us in this class and he had played this exact same "witness" part for the other team last week. He didn't do awful but there were a lot of times where he was tripping over words and it felt like he might have been reading the thing for the first time. He was probably just as exhausted as I was, but it just wasn't making things much easier. I got through the thing. There were a lot of amazing gems I had written in this script and he just didn't perform them the way I had hoped so again-- that's partly on me for not practising beforehand. But I'm glad he did it and helped. Always better to have somebody than nobody and without him, I would've had nobody. Then later on with a different witness, the opposing side got up to do cross. I won't go into the details but they tried to introduce evidence that they knew or should've known was allowed in-- I tried to do exactly what they did last week and was turned down. So I made an objection. And in part I was annoyed because it was like-- you guys knew I wasn't going to allow this (we exchanged this in a stipulation memo last week) and you knew I wasn't able to do this last week. And they tried it anyway. But it was more than that-- it was just the whole weekend and all the anxiety of working on a team on top of having to do a presentation earlier the same day.. oye. And now you're gonna try to introduce evidence that even I wasn't allowed to get in. So my objection came out bitchy. My professor later characterized it as me sounding like I thought everyone in the room is stupid. Okay, I get that perception and there's no use arguing but at the same time it's like, I'm done. I'm just done. I know it's a lot to ask everybody else to see things the way I see them, but for five fucking seconds can I get a break? There was a redeeming moment, I guess. Another teammate had asked us to make comments on his closing. I did. He basically nixed all of my comments without making a single change to his "script" or even acknowledging what I was saying. And I mean that's fine, that's how he wants to do it. But I've had a history of working with this guy and he'll be MIA on the group project and then all the sudden last minute pops up and throws all of his suggestions at us too late and didn't pay attention to all the things we had already said. So seeing him just nix all my comments just added on to the 50 pound weight on my head. But then at the end of his argument, he did make ONE change that I had suggested. It was a fairly technical one but it signaled to me, "you were right on this one, and I'm doing it your way." That was a nice 5 seconds. At the end of the night and a long round of comments from the professor, we had to sign in on the attendance sheets (ABA law schools are weirdly strict on attendance records and you've got to write your john hancock on a sheet every class session). So I go up to sign and look up at the professor and he says good job and shakes my hand and gives me a wink. One of those "you did all right and i know that you know that i know that you know that you'll end up all right out there" That was another nice 5 seconds. So I'm exhausted. And it's not over. I don't have to face another final until Saturday but I've got to go to review sessions that are semi-mandatory and require me to do practice exams if I want to show up. At least I can sleep in a little tomorrow... Update 4/29 wee hours: I spent the whole day prepping for a review class then I went to that review class and that was basically my day. Tomorrow will be similar and then I get to really get into the marathon. Also, today was the official last day of classes which translates to me officially fulfilling by ABA class attendance obligations for graduation. I celebrated with lobster mac and cheese and a cupcake. I think I may desparately need an extra 48 hours to study. Thing is, I've gotten by on less. I just need to figure out out I'm going to compact better....
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Faucet: Faucet games that let you pay for upgrades in return for higher faucet rates. These are known to be scams and yield very low ROI, be careful! statuses: New: site is less than one week old Paying: site is over one week old and still paying users On hold: site is experiencing issues, do not invest but not yet scam Saturated: site is still recorded as paying, but the game is to old to pay new investors. Scam: site is no longer paying do not invest. My rating are based on: - Expected lifetime - If owner has owned site before (noticeable with site script and design) - Plan offered (high roi, higher risk) - Domain/Hosting type (free, drop points) - Script (if duplicate of other site, or just html site, lower point) all site start with 5 rating points for fairness. rating reason is all under the monitor table. ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== Monitor: Type | Site Name | URL | Date Started | Accepted Currency | Investment Plan(s) | Affiliate Commission | Thread | Status | Rating Faucet | Ore-Mine | http://ore-mine.org | 28/08/2014 | BTC | 8 Levels | 6% | Thread | Paying | 7.5/10 Game | Crypto Pyramid | https://cryptopyramid.com | 16/03/2015 | BTC/DOGE | Pyramid | 49% | Thread | Paying | 6.5/10 HYIP | RobitBot | https://robitbot.com | 24/08/2015 | BTC, PM | 14% profit in 7 days | 2% | Thread | Paying | 6.5/10 Game | Iz-Nop | https://iz-nop.com | 02/08/2015 | BTC | 130% when bank can pay | N/A | Thread | Paying | 6/10 Game | CryptoFate | https://cryptofate.com | 07/10/2015 | BTC | 150% instant/30days | N/A | Thread | Paying | 6/10 HYIP | Wallet+ | https://wallet-plus.com | 19/09/2015 | BTC, PM, OK, PAYEER | 1.11%-5.55% daily | 3 level (5%, 1%, .5%) | Thread | Paying | 5.5/10 HYIP | Delta Investments | BitcoinTalk Based | 08/30/2015 | BTC | Variable (usually 2%-15%) | N/A | Thread | Paying | 5.5/10 Faucet | CoinBooster | http://coinbooster.io | 06/10/2015 | BTC | 5 levels | 50% | Thread | Paying | 5.5/10 HYIP | One1 Touch | https://one1-touch.com | 01/10/2015 | BTC, PM, PAYEER | 4%-4.45% daily | 3 level (5%, 3%, 1%) | Thread | Paying | 4.5/10 HYIP | Invest Coin | https://invest-coin.com | 09/10/2015 | BTC, PM, PAYEER | 1.03% - 2.3% Daily | 2 level (8%, 3%) | Thread | New | 4/10 HYIP | CryptoBoost | https://cryptoboost.xyz | 08/10/2015 | BTC | 30% in 30 hours | 10% | Thread | Paying | 3.5/10 HYIP | DoubleBot | https://doublebot.com | 20/03/2015 | BTC | 2x in variable time | 12% | Thread | Saturated | 3.5/10 Cloud | Sea-Mining | https://sea-mining.com/ | 13/10/2015 | BTC | 1GH/s 0.001BTC | N/A | Thread | New | 2/10 Scam sites: [Thread] SCAM: X-Value.org - Long term ponzi has now collapsed...site is offline. [Thread] SCAM: True2x.com - repeated posting, copying other thread text, not paying, not custom script. the list do not end. Do not invest here. [Thread] SCAM: x2-bitcoin.co.nf - html site (no auto script). invest at your own risk, this is considered scam (0 rating) [Thread] SCAM: Bitcoin.winspiral.net - junked with ads, 100 day plan, not an advised investment (0 rating, considered scam) [Thread] SCAM: Cointwice.in - faked payouts on payout page...typical scam script [Thread] SCAM: Coinbase Investments - posing as coinbase...no website, all deposits sent to luckybit. Scam. [Thread] SCAM: Unique-income.com - cheapest goldcoder script and free design, reported scam and not paying. [Thread] SCAM: Wiscapital.biz - reported no longer paying. [Thread] SCAM: PrimeDime.net - man was gambling with people money, and eventually he lose. Scam. [Thread] SCAM: VIPdoubler.com - multicryptos scammer, now listed in scam dictionary. [Thread] SCAM: LongTermPaying.com - recently collapsed scam. Ran with 4BTC. [Thread] SCAM: Btc-Pyramid.com - recently collapsed scam. Site is now offline. [Thread] SCAM: DigitalBit PRO - Using blockchain API, faking payouts, not recommended invest. ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== my advise: - Iz-Nop fair ponzi game, do not invest to late into round, always be aware of when new round start. - Invest-coin goldcoder script and fairly new, be careful, invest small if you decide to - One1-Touch also goldcoder script and paying, promising, but keep investment at steady pace. - Doublebot saturated, not wise to invest - Robitbot is getting very big, now is the cut off for investment before the scam period is going to begin. I recommend not to invest now, it is to late! - CoinBooster seem trustworthy, but be careful as most faucet based site go scam quick. There may be hope with trustworthy hero, but never be to sure. - CryptoBoost is paying, though using noncustom script. Invest in short plans if you invest, and small amounts to make sure losses aren't to large if it goes sour. - CryptoFate is new, but eventually will become saturated or collapse. It is not sustainable even though it is a game. It is safe to invest, until 20 day mark (break even for first day loser for 5% per day). - WalletPlus is quite large in fiat investment, offering semi-stable roi. This is an ok investment, but not my most recommended. Safer than most site on the list. - Ore-Mine been online for quite a long time, and has paid considerable amount. This could be proven to be online for a long time, or sign of soon collapse. Be careful, but could be stable investment. - Delta Investments owned by an altcoin owner and quite trustworthy member. Could be trusted, as also gives stable ROI. No website with automatic processing lets the rating down. - Sea-Mining is a new cloud mining site, seem inactive admin...Be careful with this site after BTC-pyramid cloud collapse. - Crypto Pyramid legit pyramid site...6 month old, a bit late to enter the game, but investments still constant daily. ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== Rating reason/warning section: - Robitbot suspected previous owner of EnlargerOK (minus 2 rating points) - Robitbot paying for 48 days, legitimate so far, though could come to a close soon (+3 rating points) - Robitbot admin still online (gain 0.5 rating points) - CoinBooster admin hero account with +10 trust (could be purchased, though +2 rating points for this) - CoinBooster purchased script, not custom (minus 1.5 points) - CryptoBoost purchased cheap, non custom script, usually used for scams. (minus 1 point) - CryptoBoost non-unique design, used many time (minus 0.5 points) - Doublebot online for months (still paying), though ponzi is saturated (no point change) - Doublebot has no design (just color text) and very basic script (minus 1.5 points) - Doublebot admin still online and answering support (+1 point) - Doublebot claim that all roi is made from "magic" (while justifying trading?) how still paying, do not know. (minus 2 rating point) - CryptoFate admitted game + provably fair alogrithm (+1 point) - CryptoFate is a ponzi that will eventually collapse, there is no plan for this time (-1 point) - CryptoFate uses custom script and design (+1 point) - WalletPlus proven paying, 3 weeks+ old (+0.5 point rating) - WalletPlus unique design, non custom script (minus 0.5 points) - WalletPlus paying, no customer issues (+1 point) - WalletPlus no admin support on bitcointalk (minus 0.5 points) - Ore-Mine online for over a year (+1.5 points) - Ore-Mine paid over 1000BTC and no scam reports (+2 points) - Ore-Mine very basic script and design, minimal UI (minus 1 point) - DeltaInvestments trustworthy admin (+1 points) - DeltaInvestments over one month old, no scam reports (+1 points) - DeltaInvestments no website, purely bitcointalk operated (minus 0.5 points) - One1 Touch unique design and paying over a week (plus 1 point) - One1 Touch goldcoders script and also has not completed one round (minus 1 point) - One1 Touch admin not active on bitcointalk (minus 0.5 points) - Invest Coin unique design and stable plans (plus 1 point) - Invest Coin online for less than one week (minus 1.5 points) - Invest Coin admin not active on bitcointalk (minus 0.5 points) - Iz-nop successfully paid two rounds no issue (plus 1 point) - Iz-nop using non-custom, publicly available script (minus 1 point) - Iz-nop admin active on bitcointalk, no scam reports (plus 1 point) - Sea-Mining admin inactive on bitcointalk (minus 1 point) - Sea-Mining offering lower than normal cloud rate (minus 2 points) - Sea-Mining less than one week old (minus 1 point) - Sea-Mining unique design and script (+1 point) - Crypto Pyramid admin active and responds to support (+1 point) - Crypto Pyramid online for over 6 month, proven legit (+1 point) - Crypto Pyramid no consumer complaints (+0.5 points)
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