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Groestlcoin 6th Anniversary Release

Introduction

Dear Groestlers, it goes without saying that 2020 has been a difficult time for millions of people worldwide. The groestlcoin team would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone our best to everyone coping with the direct and indirect effects of COVID-19. Let it bring out the best in us all and show that collectively, we can conquer anything.
The centralised banks and our national governments are facing unprecedented times with interest rates worldwide dropping to record lows in places. Rest assured that this can only strengthen the fundamentals of all decentralised cryptocurrencies and the vision that was seeded with Satoshi's Bitcoin whitepaper over 10 years ago. Despite everything that has been thrown at us this year, the show must go on and the team will still progress and advance to continue the momentum that we have developed over the past 6 years.
In addition to this, we'd like to remind you all that this is Groestlcoin's 6th Birthday release! In terms of price there have been some crazy highs and lows over the years (with highs of around $2.60 and lows of $0.000077!), but in terms of value– Groestlcoin just keeps getting more valuable! In these uncertain times, one thing remains clear – Groestlcoin will keep going and keep innovating regardless. On with what has been worked on and completed over the past few months.

UPDATED - Groestlcoin Core 2.18.2

This is a major release of Groestlcoin Core with many protocol level improvements and code optimizations, featuring the technical equivalent of Bitcoin v0.18.2 but with Groestlcoin-specific patches. On a general level, most of what is new is a new 'Groestlcoin-wallet' tool which is now distributed alongside Groestlcoin Core's other executables.
NOTE: The 'Account' API has been removed from this version which was typically used in some tip bots. Please ensure you check the release notes from 2.17.2 for details on replacing this functionality.

How to Upgrade?

Windows
If you are running an older version, shut it down. Wait until it has completely shut down (which might take a few minutes for older versions), then run the installer.
OSX
If you are running an older version, shut it down. Wait until it has completely shut down (which might take a few minutes for older versions), run the dmg and drag Groestlcoin Core to Applications.
Ubuntu
http://groestlcoin.org/forum/index.php?topic=441.0

Other Linux

http://groestlcoin.org/forum/index.php?topic=97.0

Download

Download the Windows Installer (64 bit) here
Download the Windows Installer (32 bit) here
Download the Windows binaries (64 bit) here
Download the Windows binaries (32 bit) here
Download the OSX Installer here
Download the OSX binaries here
Download the Linux binaries (64 bit) here
Download the Linux binaries (32 bit) here
Download the ARM Linux binaries (64 bit) here
Download the ARM Linux binaries (32 bit) here

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ALL NEW - Groestlcoin Moonshine iOS/Android Wallet

Built with React Native, Moonshine utilizes Electrum-GRS's JSON-RPC methods to interact with the Groestlcoin network.
GRS Moonshine's intended use is as a hot wallet. Meaning, your keys are only as safe as the device you install this wallet on. As with any hot wallet, please ensure that you keep only a small, responsible amount of Groestlcoin on it at any given time.

Features

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iOS
Android

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ALL NEW! – HODL GRS Android Wallet

HODL GRS connects directly to the Groestlcoin network using SPV mode and doesn't rely on servers that can be hacked or disabled.
HODL GRS utilizes AES hardware encryption, app sandboxing, and the latest security features to protect users from malware, browser security holes, and even physical theft. Private keys are stored only in the secure enclave of the user's phone, inaccessible to anyone other than the user.
Simplicity and ease-of-use is the core design principle of HODL GRS. A simple recovery phrase (which we call a Backup Recovery Key) is all that is needed to restore the user's wallet if they ever lose or replace their device. HODL GRS is deterministic, which means the user's balance and transaction history can be recovered just from the backup recovery key.

Features

Download

Main Release (Main Net)
Testnet Release

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ALL NEW! – GroestlcoinSeed Savior

Groestlcoin Seed Savior is a tool for recovering BIP39 seed phrases.
This tool is meant to help users with recovering a slightly incorrect Groestlcoin mnemonic phrase (AKA backup or seed). You can enter an existing BIP39 mnemonic and get derived addresses in various formats.
To find out if one of the suggested addresses is the right one, you can click on the suggested address to check the address' transaction history on a block explorer.

Features

Live Version (Not Recommended)

https://www.groestlcoin.org/recovery/

Download

https://github.com/Groestlcoin/mnemonic-recovery/archive/master.zip

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ALL NEW! – Vanity Search Vanity Address Generator

NOTE: NVidia GPU or any CPU only. AMD graphics cards will not work with this address generator.
VanitySearch is a command-line Segwit-capable vanity Groestlcoin address generator. Add unique flair when you tell people to send Groestlcoin. Alternatively, VanitySearch can be used to generate random addresses offline.
If you're tired of the random, cryptic addresses generated by regular groestlcoin clients, then VanitySearch is the right choice for you to create a more personalized address.
VanitySearch is a groestlcoin address prefix finder. If you want to generate safe private keys, use the -s option to enter your passphrase which will be used for generating a base key as for BIP38 standard (VanitySearch.exe -s "My PassPhrase" FXPref). You can also use VanitySearch.exe -ps "My PassPhrase" which will add a crypto secure seed to your passphrase.
VanitySearch may not compute a good grid size for your GPU, so try different values using -g option in order to get the best performances. If you want to use GPUs and CPUs together, you may have best performances by keeping one CPU core for handling GPU(s)/CPU exchanges (use -t option to set the number of CPU threads).

Features

Usage

https://github.com/Groestlcoin/VanitySearch#usage

Download

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ALL NEW! – Groestlcoin EasyVanity 2020

Groestlcoin EasyVanity 2020 is a windows app built from the ground-up and makes it easier than ever before to create your very own bespoke bech32 address(es) when whilst not connected to the internet.
If you're tired of the random, cryptic bech32 addresses generated by regular Groestlcoin clients, then Groestlcoin EasyVanity2020 is the right choice for you to create a more personalised bech32 address. This 2020 version uses the new VanitySearch to generate not only legacy addresses (F prefix) but also Bech32 addresses (grs1 prefix).

Features

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Remastered! – Groestlcoin WPF Desktop Wallet (v2.19.0.18)

Groestlcoin WPF is an alternative full node client with optional lightweight 'thin-client' mode based on WPF. Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) is one of Microsoft's latest approaches to a GUI framework, used with the .NET framework. Its main advantages over the original Groestlcoin client include support for exporting blockchain.dat and including a lite wallet mode.
This wallet was previously deprecated but has been brought back to life with modern standards.

Features

Remastered Improvements

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ALL NEW! – BIP39 Key Tool

Groestlcoin BIP39 Key Tool is a GUI interface for generating Groestlcoin public and private keys. It is a standalone tool which can be used offline.

Features

Download

Windows
Linux :
 pip3 install -r requirements.txt python3 bip39\_gui.py 

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ALL NEW! – Electrum Personal Server

Groestlcoin Electrum Personal Server aims to make using Electrum Groestlcoin wallet more secure and more private. It makes it easy to connect your Electrum-GRS wallet to your own full node.
It is an implementation of the Electrum-grs server protocol which fulfils the specific need of using the Electrum-grs wallet backed by a full node, but without the heavyweight server backend, for a single user. It allows the user to benefit from all Groestlcoin Core's resource-saving features like pruning, blocks only and disabled txindex. All Electrum-GRS's feature-richness like hardware wallet integration, multi-signature wallets, offline signing, seed recovery phrases, coin control and so on can still be used, but connected only to the user's own full node.
Full node wallets are important in Groestlcoin because they are a big part of what makes the system be trust-less. No longer do people have to trust a financial institution like a bank or PayPal, they can run software on their own computers. If Groestlcoin is digital gold, then a full node wallet is your own personal goldsmith who checks for you that received payments are genuine.
Full node wallets are also important for privacy. Using Electrum-GRS under default configuration requires it to send (hashes of) all your Groestlcoin addresses to some server. That server can then easily spy on your transactions. Full node wallets like Groestlcoin Electrum Personal Server would download the entire blockchain and scan it for the user's own addresses, and therefore don't reveal to anyone else which Groestlcoin addresses they are interested in.
Groestlcoin Electrum Personal Server can also broadcast transactions through Tor which improves privacy by resisting traffic analysis for broadcasted transactions which can link the IP address of the user to the transaction. If enabled this would happen transparently whenever the user simply clicks "Send" on a transaction in Electrum-grs wallet.
Note: Currently Groestlcoin Electrum Personal Server can only accept one connection at a time.

Features

Download

Windows
Linux / OSX (Instructions)

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UPDATED – Android Wallet 7.38.1 - Main Net + Test Net

The app allows you to send and receive Groestlcoin on your device using QR codes and URI links.
When using this app, please back up your wallet and email them to yourself! This will save your wallet in a password protected file. Then your coins can be retrieved even if you lose your phone.

Changes

Download

Main Net
Main Net (FDroid)
Test Net

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UPDATED – Groestlcoin Sentinel 3.5.06 (Android)

Groestlcoin Sentinel is a great solution for anyone who wants the convenience and utility of a hot wallet for receiving payments directly into their cold storage (or hardware wallets).
Sentinel accepts XPUB's, YPUB'S, ZPUB's and individual Groestlcoin address. Once added you will be able to view balances, view transactions, and (in the case of XPUB's, YPUB's and ZPUB's) deterministically generate addresses for that wallet.
Groestlcoin Sentinel is a fork of Groestlcoin Samourai Wallet with all spending and transaction building code removed.

Changes

Download

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UPDATED – P2Pool Test Net

Changes

Download

Pre-Hosted Testnet P2Pool is available via http://testp2pool.groestlcoin.org:21330/static/

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Introducing Ballet: A Simple and Elegant Approach to Address “Mass-Adoption”

Introducing Ballet: A Simple and Elegant Approach to Address “Mass-Adoption”

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After months of anticipation, we are very excited to share with you the vision behind Ballet and our approach to achieve global adoption and safe usability of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies.

Core Functionalities

Ballet is designed as an easy entry point to store Cryptocurrencies in a secure way. Especially when new to the Crypto-space, it is not only easier to understand the functionality of Bitcoin when having a physical device, but also more secure.
The ballet wallet is a piece of hardware that is disconnected from the Internet, very simple to use and most importantly non-electronic which makes it the first of its kind. Users do not need to worry about hard-ware issues that are normally associated to hardware solutions such as bluetooth pairing, batteries or cables. Our solution requires no installment or setup — it is ready to use right away. In addition, besides Bitcoin it also supports ERC-20 tokens and stable coins.
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Who is this for?

Primarily, the Ballet Wallet is built for everyone new to Crypto. Signing up on an exchange, buying the first cryptocurrencies and storing them on a secure wallet is a complex and time-consuming process. Especially for non blockchainer’s or just occasional Internet-users, this might even prevent them to not get into Crypto.
We believe that in order to achieve mass-adoption, we need to lower the entry-barriers and simplify the user experience while providing highest security and privacy. Therefore we created Ballet. Our mission is to eliminate bothersome steps that hinder adoption for cryptocurrencies.
If you understand what a SEED-Phrase is or how to generate your private keys, maybe this isn’t for you. However, it might be something for your family-members, your neighbour or colleague at work? We target people that are interested but just don’t know (or don’t care) where and how to get started.

Here’s How to Get Started:

Our core aim is to build an easy-to-use crypto wallet. Using the BIP-38 standard to enable secure passphrase encryption, the private keys are automatically pre-generated and engraved onto the card. There are no intermediate-steps for card activation or separately storage of private keys required.
Ballet users enjoy immediate usability by just scanning the QR-Code engraved on the wallet. The companion Ballet Crypto App brings the card to live without ever storing or sharing the private keys online with anyone.
It is an easy-to-use all-in-one solution that helps drive global adoption for cryptocurrencies and decentralised ledger technology to succeed.

Official Stores & Marketplaces

You can order your Ballet Crypto Wallet in our Online Store or on Amazon: United States, United Kingdom, France, Italy or Spain. Ballet wallets are also available in Latin America. Join the Telegram Community to get in touch with our team in Medellin, Colombia and ask for details how to purchase the wallet. You will save time, shipping cost and custom fees when buying the wallets directly from our Latam-team.

What’s Next

After the successful launch of our product and our very positive reception and feedback so far, we are currently busy on expanding our reach and build local communities all around the world. An important pillar to Ballet’s success is also our global distribution network that we aim to further expand, too.
To learn more about Ballet Crypto, sign up for email updates on our Website. To stay up to date on Ballet news and announcements, follow us on Twitter, Linked In, Facebook, Instagram and join the conversation in our TelegramCommunity.
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Digibyte - June - Update - News

Welcome to the Digibyte June update, this will be following up information from the May update, and news going forward.
Congratulations and thank you to all the time foundation members have put in and the team of amazing volunteers for getting digibyte on these recent exchanges, and other developments below!
New exchanges
You can now buy and sell DGB in Korea on Okcoinkr! Check it out here https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/992231430804594688
Digibyte is now available on DX https://dx.exchange/ Here is some information about the Nasdaq powered Crypto Exchange https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/exclusive-nasdaq-powered-crypto-exchange-dx-set-to-launch-next-month/
Thank you to Rudy, Dereck, and the Digibyte awareness team for this! Official announcement - Rudy Twitter link - https://twitter.com/RudyBouwman/status/1003645228744695813
The recent partnership with Blocknet and the truly decentralized exchange they have designed and built is news that is by far the most exciting thing to happen to Digibyte recently!!
This is about announcing we can trade $DGB on BlockDX a pure decentralized exchange https://www.blocknet.co/coins/
The next large announcement that come with this partnership means Digibyte is now ready for cross-blockchain Dapps on The Blocknet! Imagine the new dApp possibilities Dgb will have because of interoperability via Blocknet Protocol !!
Please read up on this and how big of an opportunity this creates for Digibyte and future Developers - https://medium.com/@theblocknetchannel/understanding-a-decentralized-exchange-eee9e1043f45
The new partnership with General bytes allows Digibyte ATM access all over the world!! https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/998618749526622208/photo/1
Here is a map of all ATMs around the world Digibyte will be at https://coinatmradar.com/
Buy Digibyte with 14+ Fiat currencies on BitIt including USD, EUR, KRW, JPY across 50+ countries on BitIT - Link - https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/1001165211728949249
You can now buy $DGB with $NZD on http://EasyCrypto.NZ ! #DGB #DigiByte https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/994311408169840640
The Seattle-based cryptocurrency exchange Bittrex Inc. announced that it has structured banking deals that will provide select customers the ability to trade in U.S. dollars – a step that may help the exchange increase its user engagement and enhance the entire space.
Development
Wallets - Guarda has now integrated digibyte on their web-based Wallet and mobile Android wallet now out!! - Here is the offical link https://twitter.com/GuardaWallet/status/997481147662729226
The https://www.digi-id.io website and release went off with a boom! The developer bounty to have digi id integrated into the mobile wallets is complete. Devina.es a spanish news website is adopting digi-id and a plugin for WHMCS, https://whmcsnow.com/digi-id-addon.html as well as implementing it for others and their customers is out! The open-source plugin is available here: https://github.com/evilmouse69/Digi-ID-for-WHMCS/.
“DigiID is to also be FIDO compliant and bind to the TLS layer so it doesn’t need to be a zero sum game like these people seem to be advocating.” This would allow Digi-ID to compete against facebook to login to different websites as an authentication method.
Here is an excellent animated video for an overall overview of the Digital ID technology - https://youtu.be/pLrQycud5GI
CoinTippy is a tipping platform which you can use as a wallet. Currently these currencies are supported: DGB, BTC, LTC, ZEC, DASH. There are couple of unique features like transferring funds between social accounts (atm it works with Telegram, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Twitch) ( If you get a donation as a streamer on Twitch, you can re-send it to your viewers or send it to someone via Twitter :) Feel free to reach out and ask any questions about these projects.
Digibyte has the ability for smart contract support. I bring this up as it has been a question asked before. This smart contract support is based on the same language as Bitcoin Script. There currently are no good docs or examples which is something a few of the core devs are going to be working on next once the mobile wallets are shipped. To check out the more info check out the github link here: https://github.com/ivy-lang/ivy-bitcoin
Jared has now spoken at Harvard and at MIT twice, NYU is set for next semester. There are more prestigious Universities looking to have him be involved educating through conferences, meetings, and live speeches. If you have not seen him share his expertise on blockchain please go checkout one of his videos on youtube! Here is a good one to start from 2016! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-y9wNWII6k
Here is a video of Jared at MIT recently - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0RUau9roE&t
Apple has updated their crypto app related policy, you can educate yourself by checking out the article below, in regards to the Digibyte IOS mobile wallet it doesn't change things. The IOS wallet is still in beta with features being added and the final details being tweaked. https://news.bitcoin.com/apples-app-store-revises-cryptocurrency-app-rules/
Here is an update on the Current State of Translations: 50+ the same languages ready for iOS and Android. 50+ languages ready for iOS and 6 in progress. -50+ languages ready for Android and 10 in progress. This amount of world wide translation will equal to world wide attention and adoption.
Digibyte Awareness Team -- An organised community driven marketing initiative, the DigiByte Awareness Team was initially just Dereck and has evolved into Dgbat, growing larger and stronger as the technology moves forward! https://medium.com/@DGBAT/introducing-digibyte-awareness-team-dgbat-43e94aeef58b
Dereck has also started a quora account for digibyte that looks promising! - link - https://www.quora.com/profile/DigiByte-Awareness-Team
Cucuta crypto project - David Hay is in Cucuta working fulltime fulling his dream of helping & empowering the refugees who fled Venezuela to make a new life surrounding cryptocurrency. He has received the updates to DigiByte for Android 2.0.0b2200 Release Candidate 5 that is now available on Google Play.
What's New: * Android v4.2+ is now supported!* Bug Fixes and Improvements! Now that this has been passed on to David Hay we can have him try it out on those Fire tabs he's giving out!! Thank you again noah and everyone else putting in hard work as volunteers !!
Digibyte being chosen in the Cucuta crypto project is still TBD with regards to a selection for use as "the" official crypto. David Hay recently has said “They have not registered anywhere and we have not been collecting money. We are still in the planning stages. I have been using my personal funds to keep things moving and have received small donations from the Digibyte, PacCoin and Electroneum core teams” Moving with caution is reasonable within such an unregulated market and unstable countries, Digibyte community is here for you David!
Matthews fund - One of our great volunteers I would like to shine the spotlight on, please support him and try out some of these apps he has developed or check out his one of a kind dice that you can buy in Dgb and also help support him for all he has done for digibyte so far!
Digital metal wallets are almost ready, you can store your digibyte on an encrypted metal coin, available in gold, brass, and aluminum plated. Blockchain security at its best along with bip 38 encryption (Similar to a paper wallet but your in out keys are forged on to a coin with the metal of your choice) Matt has really out done himself with this one, and I can't wait to get one, stay tuned for the next update! I hope more people like himself can come forward and build upon digibyte!!
Paper Wallet Generator: http://paper.digibyte.rocks/ (Think giveaways, or promotions )
Dice store: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/propmodule (Special edition dice)
DigiSweep: https://mctrivia.github.io/DigiSweep/index.html (Multiple wallets)
DigiPassword: https://mctrivia.github.io/DigiPassword/index.html
Digibyte QR codes: https://mctrivia.github.io/DigiQ
Please support Matt - Donation link can be found: https://digibyte.rocks
The #1 cryptocurrency portfolio tracker Blockfolio is proud to announce the incorporation of a new communication feed called Signal to all users. A few volunteersof DigiByte have reached out including a member of the foundation to blockfolio and are looking to have digibyte updates added to their signal program! Read here more from Jennifer Miller at Blockfolio! https://blog.blockfolio.com/connect-to-token-team-with-signal-available-only-at-blockfolio-9accd67dc0d5
Articles recently released talking about Digibyte -
https://www.nasdaq.com/article/20-cryptocurrencies-to-bet-the-house-on-cm970332
https://globalcoinreport.com/digibyte-paving-the-way-for-the-future-of-blockchain/
https://globalcoinreport.com/digibytes-dgb-potential-for-the-future-why-this-crypto-deserves-a-chance/
https://www.thecrimson.com/sponsored/article/digibyte/
https://themerkle.com/what-is-digi-id/ (Digi Id info)
These are both news worth sharing and letting people know about!
JCC a peer reviewed and approved article website has released a Digibyte Blockchain educational pdf. https://twitter.com/Journal_CC/status/988166054546427904
IBM is having a blockchain developer challenge, open for entry, and a few of our Digibyte volunteers with support from the foundation have reached out, for info to check out the challenge and opportunity please click the link below - https://www.ibm.com/blogs/blockchain/2018/05/challenge-accepted-chance-make-world-better-blockchain/
“Code and learn how to implement a blockchain solution that has a direct positive social impact, all while building on an actual blockchain platform — for free! The top 5 entries will win a pair of VIP tickets each to a Global Citizen Festival of your choice! The contest runs May 15 – July 14, 2018.” IBM
Digibyte interviews
Andrea Simon (Corporate Anthropologist) interview with Jared Tate about DigiByte & Blockchain. I can't believe how well this interview went, a must watch! Check out, the link here to see a class act interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCmPH8sCnPM
Crypto Lark interview with Jared Tate "DigiByte DGB - Secure, Community Driven, and Legit Blockchain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kaLmGSFFqI
Undisputed crypto interview and digibyte prize info & check out the video here (link) https://twitter.com/UndisputedCrypt/status/997292652705058818
Josiah and cryptopusle episode 30 link https://www.cryptopulse.co.uk/episode-30/
UBC may have @jaredtate to come speak. https://blockchainubc.ca/
Host of The Bad Crypto Podcast, Travis Wright, met with Jared Tate a few months ago. A long coming podcast between the two is hopefully in the works, check out the link below https://mobile.twitter.com/teedubya/status/996432404830146561 And finally here its..!! https://badcryptopodcast.com/2018/06/11/jared-tate-from-digibyte-138/
Want to see Jared Tate to do a podcast with Laura Shin (co-lead reporter on the Forbes Fintech 50 list)? Help retweet, like, https://twitter.com/NigelDigiByte/status/994248468163067904
Here Is Travis Wright asking Jared Tate for a specific time and interview https://twitter.com/teedubya/status/999735756095655936?s=19
Jared talks with Matt Aaron over on bitcoin.com https://podcast.bitcoin.com/e156-Special-The-Future-of-Blockchain-with-Jared-Tate-of-DigiByte
Josiah & Hanni from @The_Blocknet to talk about interoperability, the future of blockchains, and how #DigiByte fits into that vision: https://twitter.com/dgb_chilling/status/994348370473857024 Video link - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0LyKbC_naDVJJ-FtSVo5eA/live
Uncle Charlie lee having a good open conversation with Josiah over on twitter! https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1001663176306380800
Community information/conversation
A telegram member recently explained their Coffee Shop in Romania is now accepting digibyte as a form of payment.
For our folks in the United States, The North American Securities Administrators Association, is finally taking regulatory actions within the cryptosphere you can check out the updates of subpoenas, cease & desist to US based exchanges and hopefully more info will continue to follow throughout Q3 of this year! (Similar to the SEC) Here is the official link - http://www.nasaa.org/45121/state-and-provincial-securities-regulators-conduct-coordinated-international-crypto-crackdown-2/
Last but not least here is a recent fire live stream from our ambassador Josiah! I have yet to watch it yet, and looking forward to it when I have some more free time! Thank you Josiah, and to all the other Volunteers that help make the Digibyte wheel go round!!
Here is Josiah youtube video, subscribe and stay up to date! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puqriaer_0E
To check out the previous May Update click on my reddit account and tab to posts!!
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IRC Log from Ravencoin Open Developer Meeting - Aug 24, 2018

[14:05] <@wolfsokta> Hello Everybody, sorry we're a bit late getting started
[14:05] == block_338778 [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.72.214.222.226] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Here are the topics we would like to cover today • 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] == Chatturga changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Daben, could you mention what we have done to communicate the need for the 2.0.4 upgrade?
[14:07] == hwhwhsushwban [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.172.58.37.35] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:07] <@wolfsokta> Others here are free to chime in where they saw the message first.
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[14:08] Whats up bois
[14:08] hi everyone
[14:08] hi hi
[14:08] <@wolfsokta> Discussing the 2.0.4 update and the need to upgrade.
[14:08] <@Chatturga> Sure. As most of you are aware, the community has been expressing concerns with the difficulty oscillations, and were asking that something be done to the difficulty retargeting. Many people submitted suggestions, and the devs decided to implement DGW.
[14:09] <@Tron> I wrote up a short description of why we're moving to a new difficulty adjustment. https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:09] <@Chatturga> I have made posts on discord, telegram, bitcointalk, reddit, and ravencointalk.org from testnet stages through current.
[14:10] <@Chatturga> If there are any other channels that can reach a large number of community members, I would love to have more.
[14:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Tron, that hasn't been shared to the community at large yet, but folks feel free to share it.
[14:10] When was this decision made and by whom and how?
[14:10] <@Chatturga> I have also communicated with the pool operators and exchanges about the update. Of all of the current pools, only 2 have not yet updated versions.
[14:11] <@wolfsokta> The decision was made by the developers through ongoing requests for weeks made by the community.
[14:12] <@wolfsokta> Evidence was provided by the community of the damages that could be caused to projects when the wild swings continue.
[14:12] So was there a meeting or vote? How can people get invited
[14:12] <@Tron> It was also informed by my conversations with some miners that recommended that we make the change before the coin died. They witnessed similar oscillations from which other coins never recovered.
[14:13] only two pools left to upgrade is good, what about the exchanges? Any word on how many of those have/have not upgraded?
[14:13] <@wolfsokta> We talked about here in our last meeting Bruce_. All attendees were asked if they had any questions or concerns.
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[14:13] sup roshii long time no see
[14:14] <@Chatturga> Bittrex, Cryptopia, and IDCM have all either updated or have announced their intent to update.
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[14:15] sup russki
[14:15] what's the status here?
[14:15] I don’t think that was at all clear from the last dev meeting
[14:15] I can’t be the only person who didn’t understand it
[14:15] <@wolfsokta> Are there any suggestions on how to communicate the need to upgrade even further? I am concerned that others might also not understand.
[14:17] I’m not sold on the benefit and don’t understand the need for a hard fork — I think it’s a bad precedent to simply go rally exchanges to support a hard fork with little to no discussion
[14:17] so just to note, the exchanges not listed as being upgraded or have announced their intention to upgrade include: qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge (all with over $40k usd volume past 24 hours according to coinmarketcap)
[14:18] <@wolfsokta> I don't agree that there was little or no discussion at all.
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> Looking back at our meeting notes from two weeks ago "fork" was specifically asked about by BrianMCT.
[14:19] If individual devs have the power to simple decide to do something as drastic as a hard fork and can get exchanges and miners to do it that’s got a lot of issues with centralization
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> It had been implemented on testnet by then and discussed in the community for several weeks before that.
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[14:19] howdy
[14:19] Everything I’ve seen has been related to the asset layer
[14:19] I have to agree with Bruce_, though I wasn't able to join the last meeting here. That said I support the fork
[14:20] Which devs made this decision to do a fork and how was it communicated?
[14:20] well mostly the community made the decision
[14:20] Consensus on a change is the heart of bitcoin development and I believe the devs have done a great job building that consensus
[14:20] a lot of miners were in uproar about the situation
[14:20] <@wolfsokta> All of the devs were supporting the changes. It wasn't done in isolation at all.
[14:21] This topic has been a huge discussion point within the RVN mining community for quite some time
[14:21] the community and miners have been having issues with the way diff is adjusted for quite some time now
[14:21] Sure I’m well aware of that -
[14:21] Not sold on the benefits of having difficulty crippled by rented hashpower?
[14:21] The community saw a problem. The devs got together and talked about a solution and implemented a solution
[14:21] I’m active in the community
[14:22] So well aware of the discussions on DGW etc
[14:22] Hard fork as a solution to a problem community had with rented hashpower (nicehash!!) sounds like the perfect decentralized scenario!
[14:23] hard forks are very dangerous
[14:23] mining parties in difficulty drops are too
[14:23] <@wolfsokta> Agreed, we want to keep them to an absolute minimum.
[14:23] But miners motivation it’s the main vote
[14:24] What would it take to convince you that constantly going from 4 Th/s to 500 Gh/s every week is worse for the long term health of the coin than the risk of a hard fork to fix it?
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[14:24] This hardfork does include the asset layer right? if so why is it being delayed in implementation?
[14:24] <@wolfsokta> Come back Tron!
[14:24] coudl it have been implement through bip9 voting?
[14:24] also hard fork is activated by the community! that's a vote thing!
[14:24] @mrsushi to give people time to upgrade their wallet
[14:25] @under, it would be much hard to keep consensus with a bip9 change
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> We investigated that closely Under.
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[14:25] <@wolfsokta> See Tron's post for more details about that.
[14:25] <@spyder_> Hi Tron
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:25] Sorry about that. Computer went to sleep.
[14:26] I'm wrong
[14:26] 2 cents. the release deadline of october 31st puts a bit of strain on getting code shipped. (duh). but fixing daa was important to the current health of the coin, and was widely suppported by current mining majority commuity. could it have been implemented in a different manner? yes . if we didnt have deadlines
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[14:27] sushi this fork does not include assets. it's not being delayed though, we're making great progress for an Oct 31 target
[14:28] I don’t see the urgency but my vote doesn’t matter since my hash power is still CPUs
[14:28] <@wolfsokta> We're seeing the community get behind the change as well based on the amount of people jumping back in to mine through this last high difficulty phase.
[14:28] So that will be another hardfork?
[14:28] the fork does include the asset code though set to activate on oct 30th
[14:28] yes
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Yes, it will based on the upgrade voting through the BIP9 process.
[14:29] I wanted to ask about burn rates from this group: and make a proposal.
[14:29] we're also trying hard to make it the last for awhile
[14:29] Can you clear up the above — there will be this one and another hard fork?
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we could discuss that under towards the end of the meeting.
[14:30] If this one has the asset layer is there something different set for October
[14:30] <@wolfsokta> Yes, there will be another hard fork on October 31st once the voting process is successful.
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> The code is in 2.0.4 now and assets are active on testnet
[14:31] Bruce, the assets layer is still being worked on. Assets is active on mainnet. So in Oct 31 voting will start. and if it passes, the chain will fork.
[14:31] this one does NOT include assets for mainnet Bruce -- assets are targeted for Oct 31
[14:31] not***
[14:31] not active****
[14:31] correct me if I'm wrong here, but if everyone upgrades to 2.0.4 for this fork this week, the vote will automatically pass on oct 31st correct? nothing else needs to be done
[14:31] Will if need another download or does this software download cover both forks?
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> Correct Urgo
[14:32] thats how the testnet got activated and this one shows "asset activation status: waiting until 10/30/2018 20:00 (ET)"
[14:32] Will require another upgrade before Oct 31
[14:32] thank you for the clarification wolfsokta
[14:32] <@wolfsokta> It covers both forks, but we might have additional bug fixes in later releases.
[14:32] So users DL one version now and another one around October 30 which activates after that basically?
[14:33] I understand that, but I just wanted to make it clear that if people upgrade to this version for this fork and then don't do anything, they are also voting for the fork on oct 31st
[14:33] Oh okay — one DL?
[14:33] Bruce, Yes.
[14:33] Ty
[14:33] well there is the issue that there maybe some further consensus bugs dealing with the pruneability of asset transactions that needs to be corrected between 2.0.4 and mainnet. so i would imagine that there will be further revisions required to upgrade before now and october 31
[14:33] @under that is correct.
[14:34] I would highly recommend bumping the semver up to 3.0.0 for the final pre 31st release so that the public know to definitely upgrade
[14:34] @under +1
[14:35] out of curiosity, have there been many bugs found with the assets from the version released in july for testnet (2.0.3) until this version? or is it solely a change to DGW?
[14:35] <@wolfsokta> That's not a bad idea under.
[14:35] <@spyder_> @under good idea
[14:35] @urgo. Bugs are being found and fixed daily.
[14:35] Any time the protocol needs to change, there would need to be a hard fork (aka upgrade). It is our hope that we can activate feature forks through the BIP process (as we are doing for assets). Mining pools and exchanges will need to be on the newest software at the point of asset activation - should the mining hash power vote for assets.
[14:35] blondfrogs: gotcha
[14:35] There have been bugs found (and fixed). Testing continues. We appreciate all the bug reports you can give us.
[14:36] <@wolfsokta> Yes! Thank you all for your help in the community.
[14:37] (pull requests with fixes and test coverage would be even better!)
[14:37] asset creation collision is another major issue. current unfair advantage or nodes that fore connect to mining pools will have network topologies that guarantee acceptance. I had discussed the possibility of fee based asset creation selection and i feel that would be a more equal playing ground for all users
[14:38] *of nodes that force
[14:38] <@wolfsokta> What cfox said, we will always welcome development help.
[14:38] So just to make sure everyone know. When assets is ready to go live on oct 31st. Everyone that wants to be on the assets chain without any problems will have to download the new binary.
[14:39] <@wolfsokta> The latest binary.
[14:39] under: already in the works
[14:39] excellent to hear
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[14:39] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we've spent a bunch of time on that topic and I think it was needed. Does anybody have any other suggestions on how to get the word out even more?
[14:40] maybe preface all 2.0.X releases as pre-releases... minimize the number of releases between now and 3.0 etc
[14:41] <@wolfsokta> Bruce_ let's discuss further offline.
[14:41] wolfsokta: which are the remaining two pools that need to be upgraded? I've identified qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge as high volume exchanges that haven't said they were going to do it yet
[14:41] so people can help reach out to them
[14:41] f2pool is notoriously hard to contact
[14:41] are they on board?
[14:42] <@wolfsokta> We could use help reaching out to QBTC and Graviex
[14:42] I can try to contact CB if you want?
[14:42] <@Chatturga> The remaining pools are Ravenminer and PickAxePro.
[14:42] <@Chatturga> I have spoken with their operators, the update just hasnt been applied yet.
[14:42] ravenminer is one of the largest ones too. If they don't upgrade that will be a problem
[14:42] okay good news
[14:42] (PickAxePro sounds like a Ruby book)
[14:43] I strongly feel like getting the word out on ravencoin.org would be beneficial
[14:44] that site is sorely in need of active contribution
[14:44] Anyone can volunteer to contribute
[14:44] <@wolfsokta> Okay, cfox can you talk about the status of unique assets?
[14:44] sure
[14:45] <@wolfsokta> I'll add website to the end of our topics.
[14:45] code is in review and will be on the development branch shortly
[14:45] would it make sense to have a page on the wiki (or somewhere else) that lists the wallet versions run by pools & exchanges?
[14:45] will be in next release
[14:45] furthermore, many sites have friendly link to the standard installers for each platform, if the site linked to the primary installers for each platform to reduce github newb confusion that would be good as well
[14:46] likely to a testnetv5 although that isn't settled
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Thanks cfox.
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Are there any questions about unique assets, and how they work?
[14:47] after the # are there any charachters you cant use?
[14:47] will unique assets be constrained by the asset alphanumeric set?
[14:47] ^
[14:47] <@Chatturga> @Urgo there is a page that tracks and shows if they have updated, but it currently doesnt show the actual version that they are on.
[14:47] a-z A-Z 0-9
[14:47] <@Chatturga> https://raven.wiki/wiki/Exchange_notifications#Pools
[14:47] There are a few. Mostly ones that mess with command-line
[14:47] you'll be able to use rpc to do "issueunique MATRIX ['Neo','Tank','Tank Brother']" and it will create three assets for you (MATRIX#Neo, etc.)
[14:47] @cfox - No space
[14:48] @under the unique tags have an expanded set of characters allowed
[14:48] Chatturga: thank you
[14:48] @UJP yes there are some you can't use -- I'll try to post gimmie a sec..
[14:49] Ok. Thank you much!
[14:49] 36^36 assets possible and 62^62 uniques available per asset?
[14:49] <@spyder_> std::regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$");
[14:50] regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$")
[14:50] oh thanks Mark
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> Okay, next up. I want to thank everybody for helping test the iOS wallet release.
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> We are working with Apple to get the final approval to post it to the App Store
[14:51] @under max asset length is 30, including unique tag
[14:51] Does the RVN wallet have any other cryptos or just RVN?
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[14:52] will the android and ios source be migrated to the ravenproject github?
[14:52] I've been adding beta test users. I've added about 80 new users in the last few days.
[14:52] <@wolfsokta> Just RVN, and we want to focus on adding the asset support to the wallet.
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[14:53] <@wolfsokta> Yes, the code will also be freely available on GitHub for both iOS and Android. Thank you Roshii!
[14:53] Would you consider the iOS wallet to be a more secure place for one's holdings than say, a Mac connected to the internet?
[14:53] will there be a chance of a more user freindly wallet with better graphics like the iOS on PC?
[14:53] the android wallet is getting updated for DGW, correct?
[14:53] <@wolfsokta> That has come up in our discussion Pizza.
[14:54] QT framework is pretty well baked in and is cross platform. if we get some qt gurus possibly
[14:54] Phones are pretty good because the wallet we forked uses the TPM from modern phones.
[14:54] Most important is to write down and safely store your 12 word seed.
[14:54] TPM?
[14:54] <@wolfsokta> A user friendly wallet is one of our main goals.
[14:55] TPM == Trusted Platform Module
[14:55] Ahhh thanks
[14:55] just please no electron apps. they are full of security holes
[14:55] <@spyder_> It is whats makes your stuffs secure
[14:55] not fit for crypto
[14:55] under: depends on who makes it
[14:55] The interface screenshots I've seen look like Bread/Loaf wallet ... I assume that's what was forked from
[14:55] ;)
[14:56] <@wolfsokta> @roshii did you see the question about the Android wallet and DGW?
[14:56] Yes, it was a fork of breadwallet. We like their security.
[14:56] chromium 58 is the last bundled electron engine and has every vuln documented online by google. so unless you patch every vuln.... methinks not
[14:56] Agreed, great choice
[14:57] <@wolfsokta> @Under, what was your proposal?
[14:58] All asset creation Transactions have a mandatory OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY of 1 year(or some agreed upon time interval), and the 500 RVN goes to a multisig devfund, run by a custodial group. We get: 1) an artificial temporary burn, 2) sustainable community and core development funding for the long term, after OSTK/Medici 3) and the reintroduction of RVN supply at a fixed schedule, enabling the removal of the 42k max cap of total As
[14:58] *im wrong on the 42k figure
[14:58] <@wolfsokta> Interesting...
[14:59] <@wolfsokta> Love to hear others thoughts.
[14:59] Update: I posted a message on the CryptoBridge discord and one of their support members @stepollo#6276 said he believes the coin team is already aware of the fork but he would forward the message about the fork over to them right now anyway
[14:59] Ifs 42 million assets
[14:59] yep.
[15:00] I have a different Idea. If the 500 RVN goes to a dev fund its more centralized. The 500 RVN should go back into the unmined coins so miners can stay for longer.
[15:01] *without a hardfork
[15:01] <@wolfsokta> lol
[15:01] that breaks halving schedule, since utxos cant return to an unmined state.
[15:01] @UJP back into coinbase is interesting. would have to think about how that effects distribution schedule, etc.
[15:01] only way to do that would be to dynamicaly grow max supply
[15:02] and i am concerned already about the max safe integer on various platforms at 21 billion
[15:02] js chokes on ravencoin already
[15:02] <@wolfsokta> Other thoughts on Under's proposal? JS isn't a real language. ;)
[15:02] Well Bitcoin has more than 21 bn Sats
[15:02] Is there somebody who wants to volunteer to fix js.
[15:02] hahaha
[15:03] I honestly would hate for the coins to go to a dev fund. It doesn't seem like Ravencoin to me.
[15:03] Yep, but we're 21 billion x 100,000,000 -- Fits fine in a 64-bit integer, but problematic for some languages.
[15:03] <@wolfsokta> Thanks UJP
[15:04] <@wolfsokta> We're past time but I would like to continue if you folks are up for it.
[15:04] Yeah no coins can go anywhere centrality contorted like a dev fund cause that would mean someone has to run it and the code can’t decide that so it’s destined to break
[15:05] currently and long term with out the financial backing of development then improvements and features will be difficult. we are certainly thankful for our current development model. but if a skunkworks project hits a particular baseline of profitability any reasonable company would terminate it
[15:05] Yes let’s contibue for sure
[15:05] the alternative to a dev fund in my mind would be timelocking those funds back to the issuers change address
[15:06] But we can’t have dev built in to the code — it has to be open source like Bitcoin and monero and Litecoin - it’s got drawbacks but way more advantages- it’s the best model
[15:06] Dev funding
[15:06] i highly reccommend not reducing the utility of raven by removing permanently the supply
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[15:07] timelocking those funds accompllishes the same sacrifice
[15:07] @under timelocking is interesting too
[15:07] How exactly does timelocking work?
[15:07] <@wolfsokta> ^
[15:07] I mean you could change the price of assets with the Block reward halfing.
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[15:08] funds cant be spent from an address until a certain time passes
[15:08] but in a what magical fairy land do people continue to work for free forever. funding development is a real issue... as much as some might philosphically disagree. its a reality
[15:08] You’d still need a centralized party to decide how to distribute the funds
[15:08] even unofficially blockstream supports bitcoin devs
[15:08] on chain is more transparent imho
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[15:09] @UJP yes there are unlimited strategies. one factor that I think is v important is giving application developers a way to easily budget for projects which leads to flat fees
[15:09] If the project is a success like many of believe it will be, I believe plenty of people will gladly done to a dev fund. I don't think the 500 should be burned.
[15:09] *donate
[15:09] centralized conservatorship, directed by community voting process
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[15:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Under, that's an interesting idea that we should continue to discuss in the community. You also mentioned the existing website.
[15:10] It would need to be something where everyone with a QT has a vote
[15:10] think his computer went to sleep again :-/
[15:10] I agree UJP
[15:10] with the website
[15:10] No that’s ico jargon — any development fund tied to code would have to be centralized and would therefor fail
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] dashes model for funding seems to be pretty decentralized
[15:11] community voting etc
[15:11] Once you have a dev fund tied to code then who gets to run it? Who mediates disputes?
[15:11] oh well another discussion
[15:11] Dash has a CEO
[15:12] <@wolfsokta> Yeah, let's keep discussing in the community spaces.
[15:12] Dash does have a good model. It's in my top ten.
[15:12] having the burn go to a dev fund is absolute garbage
[15:12] These dev chats should be more target than broad general discussions — changing the entire nature of the coin and it’s economics is best discussed in the RIPs or other means
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> Yup, let's move on.
[15:13] just becuase existing implementation are garbage doesnt mean that all possible future governance options are garbage
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> To discussing the website scenario mentioned by under.
[15:13] the website needs work. would be best if it could be migrated to github as well.
[15:13] What about this: Anyone can issue a vote once the voting feature has been added, for a cost. The vote would be what the coins could be used for.
[15:14] features for the site that need work are more user friendly links to binaries
[15:14] <@wolfsokta> We investigated how bitcoin has their website in Github to make it easy for contributors to jump in.
[15:14] that means active maintenance of the site instead of its current static nature
[15:15] <@wolfsokta> I really like how it's static html, which makes it super simple to host/make changes.
[15:15] the static nature isn’t due to interface it’s due to no contributors
[15:15] no contribution mechanism has been offered
[15:15] github hosted would allow that
[15:16] We used to run the Bitcoin website from the foundation & the GitHub integration seemed to cause some issues
[15:16] its doesnt necessarily have to be hosted by github but the page source should be on github and contributions could easily be managed and tracked
[15:17] for example when a new release is dropped, the ability for the downlaods section to have platform specific easy links to the general installers is far better for general adoption than pointing users to github releases
[15:18] <@wolfsokta> How do people currently contribute to the existing website?
[15:18] they dont?
[15:18] We did that and it was a complete pain to host and keep working — if someone wants to volunteer to do that work hey can surely make the website better and continually updated — but they could do that in Wordpress also
[15:19] I’d say keep an eye out for volunteers and maybe we can get a group together who can improve the site
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[15:19] And they can decide best method
[15:20] I host the source for the explorer on github and anyone can spin it up instantly on a basic aws node. changes can be made to interface etc, and allow for multilingual translations which have been offered by some community members
[15:20] there are models that work. just saying it should be looked at
[15:20] i gotta run thank you all for your contributions
[15:20] <@wolfsokta> I feel we should explore the source for the website being hosted in GitHub and discuss in our next dev meeting.
[15:21] <@Chatturga> Thanks Under!
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[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Thanks, we also need to drop soon.
[15:21] There is no official site so why care. Someone will do better than the next if RVN is worth it anyway. That's already the case.
[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Let's do 10 mins of open Q&A
[15:22] <@wolfsokta> Go...
[15:23] <@Chatturga> Beuller?
[15:24] No questions ... just a comment that the devs and community are great and I'm happy to be a part of it
[15:24] I think everyone moved to discord. I'll throw this out there. How confident is the dev team that things will be ready for oct 31st?
[15:24] <@wolfsokta> Alright! Thanks everybody for joining us today. Let's plan to get back together as a dev group in a couple of weeks.
[15:25] thanks block!
[15:25] <@wolfsokta> Urgo, very confident
[15:25] Please exclude trolls from discord who havent read the whitepaper
[15:25] great :)
[15:25] "things" will be ready..
[15:25] Next time on discord right?
[15:25] woah why discord?
[15:25] some of the suggestions here are horrid
[15:25] this is better less point
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[15:25] Assets are working well on testnet. Plan is to get as much as we can safely test by Sept 30 -- this includes dev contributions. Oct will be heavy testing and making sure it is safe.
[15:26] people
[15:26] <@wolfsokta> Planning on same time, same IRC channel.
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[15:26] @xmr any in particular?
[15:27] (or is "here" discord?)
[15:27] Cheers - Tron
[15:27] "Cheers - Tron" - Tron
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More reddit analysis for fun

So most of you guys know my last data digging through the rBtc and rBitcoin subreddits (the BTCSRs from here on) showing nicely how nullc decided to increase use of the term 'Bitcoin's creator' in place of 'Satoshi' in recent times and thereby confirming drwasho's intuitive suspicion.
Now, given the success of this investigation, I was wondering whether I could generalize this approach to dig through user histories to try to find more such interesting terms. I see this is mostly a fun exercise that might show further suspicious or even just interesting or funny things about us.
So here's my method: I use the BTCSRs and the same date range (2009 - Oct 31st 2016) as above.
The general method is to look at bigram (pairs of word) statistics for a certain user vs. the rest of the BTCSR data.
To count bigrams, I take a comment, remove quoted text from comments, replace the characters ',;.!?' with spaces and then split the lowercased result by using the python string.split(..) method and then count pairs of adjacent such tokenized words. The analysis turns out to be somewhat sensitive to the tokenization used; I think the basic approach is fine but if someone has a great I idea on how to improve this, I am all ears.
I first count bigrams of the whole BTCSR.
I then take a user (from a random selection of users that just came to mind and while looking through the last submissions here on rBtc) and count the bigram frequency distribution for that user and all his comments.
I then look for those bigrams that fulfil the following two criterions:
I then sort the resulting set of terms according to maximum ratio user_frequency / total_frequency (highest first) and print it (up to the first 20).
For those wondering why the numbers for Greg don't exactly match his 'Bitcoin's creator' example, it should be noted that the number of terms are slightly different to my last analysis. Among other things, this is due to:
I think the results below are interesting and I can certainly see my own pet peeves reflected in this analysis, as well as some common talking points by others :-) It also nicely exposes the 'Bitcoin' creator' thing again. But decide for yourself. If you want your name added to this list, just reply and ask. So here we go:
Terms of interest by nullc, term, user count, total count, fraction:
 bitcoin's creator 133 200 0.67 block relay 100 350 0.29 fast block 47 183 0.26 the system's 66 270 0.24 bip 109 37 152 0.24 elements alpha 32 162 0.20 doubly so 20 102 0.20 competing systems 20 103 0.19 majority hashpower 23 120 0.19 round trip 36 189 0.19 signature validation 29 153 0.19 is untrue 44 235 0.19 lite clients 30 170 0.18 p2p protocol 38 219 0.17 a specification 27 159 0.17 security properties 16 103 0.16 the bloom 23 150 0.15 not validating 19 124 0.15 consensus changes 17 111 0.15 utxo bloat 15 100 0.15 
by myself awemany:
 utxo commitments 50 166 0.30 the 32mb 32 125 0.26 32mb limit 22 108 0.20 tunnel vision 20 102 0.20 on blocksize 43 261 0.16 note also 24 148 0.16 different jurisdictions 16 107 0.15 of greg 14 103 0.14 gavin's proposal 38 285 0.13 with n 14 105 0.13 per node 19 146 0.13 emphasis mine 16 123 0.13 payment hubs 17 140 0.12 block transmission 12 106 0.11 group think 16 144 0.11 blocksize cap 65 592 0.11 physical limits 11 102 0.11 crippling the 18 168 0.11 on bct 18 169 0.11 hard cap 59 554 0.11 
mike_hearn:
 bloom filtering 24 126 0.19 
jstolfi:
 the queues 82 100 0.82 the "fee 213 315 0.68 relay nodes 243 409 0.59 "fee market" 307 580 0.53 000 | 74 144 0.51 the 21inc 56 115 0.49 total hashpower 73 161 0.45 the cartel 204 476 0.43 branch will 50 119 0.42 traffic will 42 102 0.41 overlay network 41 103 0.40 clients who 114 291 0.39 that clients 41 110 0.37 block n 42 114 0.37 speculative trading 53 154 0.34 bit shares 53 155 0.34 ditto for 43 129 0.33 the bip66 34 116 0.29 gambling game 30 104 0.29 ln payment 37 131 0.28 
aminok:
 broadband connection 43 108 0.40 txs per 28 105 0.27 txs that 42 161 0.26 throwaway accounts 39 154 0.25 tx data 26 105 0.25 core contributors 43 179 0.24 txs to 38 164 0.23 bitcoin main 32 147 0.22 cryptocurrency market 26 139 0.19 5 percent 34 182 0.19 digital scarcity 39 214 0.18 bandwidth growth 19 106 0.18 real account 24 134 0.18 8 gb 44 247 0.18 transactional currency 35 198 0.18 on trusted 30 172 0.17 the sc 26 153 0.17 of txs 46 273 0.17 limit needs 18 108 0.17 shorter block 28 169 0.17 
finway:
 fake coins 12 100 0.12 
ferretinjapan:
 claimed i 22 102 0.22 vast number 19 114 0.17 refund transaction 25 162 0.15 risk more 33 234 0.14 watching only 17 124 0.14 actual fact 14 103 0.14 in cs 13 100 0.13 and jon 13 101 0.13 blockstream core 99 797 0.12 heaps of 21 171 0.12 no-one will 15 124 0.12 no-one is 32 272 0.12 quite certain 18 157 0.11 blockchain security 16 141 0.11 i've followed 14 124 0.11 decentralised network 16 144 0.11 and though 28 257 0.11 in earnest 14 129 0.11 0 https://bitcointalk 17 162 0.10 no-one can 19 184 0.10 
cypherdoc2:
 php topic=68655 65 136 0.48 b/c they 53 130 0.41 b/c the 37 101 0.37 b/c it 39 129 0.30 b/c of 68 225 0.30 the sc 45 153 0.29 https://bitco in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up 56 198 0.28 75% discount 18 104 0.17 profit company 25 145 0.17 the ppl 19 114 0.17 the mainchain 42 266 0.16 the gfc 20 166 0.12 on bct 19 169 0.11 ppl who 20 192 0.10 most ppl 12 116 0.10 small blockists 18 175 0.10 of ppl 17 170 0.10 
todu:
 75 % 124 174 0.71 100 % 55 199 0.28 usd verify 32 123 0.26 flexible transactions 44 170 0.26 mb hard 47 189 0.25 mb blocksize 38 154 0.25 usd / 62 252 0.25 1 75 43 182 0.24 core project 47 217 0.22 wladimir van 27 128 0.21 big blocker 36 189 0.19 10 % 29 158 0.18 a spinoff 23 128 0.18 jihan wu 30 188 0.16 big blockers 95 605 0.16 5 % 25 160 0.16 ln hub 41 263 0.16 small blocker 36 237 0.15 fork code 24 158 0.15 blockstream / 19 130 0.15 
dskloet:
 in submissions 45 173 0.26 no referral 49 231 0.21 referral links 54 451 0.12 begging/asking for 19 180 0.11 
ForkiusMaximus:
 blocksize cap 117 592 0.20 a spinoff 25 128 0.20 of dev 17 106 0.16 schelling point 23 145 0.16 bitcoin's ledger 17 116 0.15 21m coin 19 145 0.13 new ledger 14 120 0.12 bitcoin ledger 34 335 0.10 
realistbtc:
 / core 14 124 0.11 blockstream / 14 130 0.11 : https://www 26 255 0.10 
BitcoinXio:
 free coins 31 290 0.11 
smartfbrankings:
 entry credits 44 251 0.18 rube goldberg 20 123 0.16 was censored 22 148 0.15 note: this 26 201 0.13 get orphaned 32 266 0.12 lol @ 55 532 0.10 
theymos:
 by full 35 183 0.19 max block 286 2134 0.13 bitcoin experts 33 257 0.13 rules no 14 117 0.12 lightweight clients 20 175 0.11 invalid chain 15 135 0.11 btc coin 12 109 0.11 with pruning 13 125 0.10 initial sync 26 255 0.10 
sfultong:
 bitcoin's ledger 12 116 0.10 
BashCo:
 to /changetip 116 131 0.89 satoshis changetip 316 539 0.59 daily thread 53 115 0.46 upvotes changetip 63 157 0.40 100000 satoshis 36 103 0.35 changetip tip 37 117 0.32 10 upvotes 38 133 0.29 tip it 144 513 0.28 that mods 29 115 0.25 deterministic seed 23 100 0.23 mbtc changetip 41 201 0.20 400 bits 60 309 0.19 thread](https://www reddit 36 208 0.17 changetip private 248 1489 0.17 moronic monday 24 151 0.16 comments which 17 113 0.15 it forward 185 1249 0.15 answer changetip 15 107 0.14 a giveaway 17 126 0.13 to subscribe 63 473 0.13 
luke-jr:
 spam filtering 44 125 0.35 addresses don't 35 177 0.20 ecdsa private 18 100 0.18 consented to 21 119 0.18 spam filters 19 111 0.17 8 peers 17 102 0.17 since 0 18 108 0.17 hardforks are 32 202 0.16 addresses do 17 123 0.14 hardfork in 27 198 0.14 light clients 35 271 0.13 consensus systems 22 180 0.12 the centralised 15 127 0.12 consensus protocol 28 249 0.11 their spam 12 112 0.11 require consensus 13 125 0.10 hardfork would 12 117 0.10 on trusting 16 157 0.10 signed messages 17 167 0.10 
Noosterdam:
 bitcoin's ledger 27 116 0.23 new ledger 24 120 0.20 blocksize cap 84 592 0.14 wide ledger 17 123 0.14 21m coin 17 145 0.12 
Lejitz:
 cap increase 86 209 0.41 urgency to 40 120 0.33 that wright 67 359 0.19 cap increases 18 102 0.18 support both 38 234 0.16 the urgency 27 180 0.15 wright is 115 826 0.14 reasonable doubt 59 459 0.13 he supposedly 14 110 0.13 block cap 23 186 0.12 people believing 12 109 0.11 into irrelevance 11 100 0.11 to bolster 17 169 0.10 
pekatete:
 missing transactions 24 103 0.23 
pb1x:
 active developers 29 101 0.29 try localbitcoins 91 446 0.20 white list 22 112 0.20 mission of 26 142 0.18 rate limit 29 173 0.17 try electrum 24 150 0.16 $0 03 31 194 0.16 rate limited 19 124 0.15 the mission 35 243 0.14 try circle 28 203 0.14 favor a 14 105 0.13 reuse an 13 108 0.12 around $0 22 186 0.12 42 million 13 110 0.12 lite clients 20 170 0.12 fiat exchanges 16 139 0.12 don't decide 15 134 0.11 $0 04 17 160 0.11 
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Hijacking Bitcoin: Routing Attacks on Cryptocurrencies

arXiv:1605.07524
Date: 2017-03-24
Author(s): Maria Apostolaki, Aviv Zohar, Laurent Vanbever

Link to Paper


Abstract
As the most successful cryptocurrency to date, Bitcoin constitutes a target of choice for attackers. While many attack vectors have already been uncovered, one important vector has been left out though: attacking the currency via the Internet routing infrastructure itself. Indeed, by manipulating routing advertisements (BGP hijacks) or by naturally intercepting traffic, Autonomous Systems (ASes) can intercept and manipulate a large fraction of Bitcoin traffic. This paper presents the first taxonomy of routing attacks and their impact on Bitcoin, considering both small-scale attacks, targeting individual nodes, and large-scale attacks, targeting the network as a whole. While challenging, we show that two key properties make routing attacks practical: (i) the efficiency of routing manipulation; and (ii) the significant centralization of Bitcoin in terms of mining and routing. Specifically, we find that any network attacker can hijack few (<100) BGP prefixes to isolate ~50% of the mining power---even when considering that mining pools are heavily multi-homed. We also show that on-path network attackers can considerably slow down block propagation by interfering with few key Bitcoin messages. We demonstrate the feasibility of each attack against the deployed Bitcoin software. We also quantify their effectiveness on the current Bitcoin topology using data collected from a Bitcoin supernode combined with BGP routing data. The potential damage to Bitcoin is worrying. By isolating parts of the network or delaying block propagation, attackers can cause a significant amount of mining power to be wasted, leading to revenue losses and enabling a wide range of exploits such as double spending. To prevent such effects in practice, we provide both short and long-term countermeasures, some of which can be deployed immediately.

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